Parang and Parang XL.
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As you very gallantly offered to take the sheath which has the faulty stud and repair it yourself, that's the one that I sent to you.
It's only just occurred to me that I should probably have taken a photograph of it, so if you get a chance you might want to do that.
Cheers,
Ged.
Mine has arrived too! I am very impressed, the parang is excellent. Having just traded my Fox Golok this is a welcome addition to the bushcraft tools. Even the items in the kit appear to be reasonable quality even though largely made in PRC! Not sure the water carrier is guaranteed to serve its "other" function though, prefer it if it was an LRC product.
Can't wait till next week when I can try out in the forest.
Can't wait till next week when I can try out in the forest.
I fixed it before I read this. Basically the stork of the outside of the outer press stud failed to engage properly with the inside section of the outside, Mine is now brass, but as I am not very tacticool this is of no consequence.
With regards to Alfredos post of the blade rolling - I can understand. This is a Parang, made for lighter chopping duties, I have just cleared a hedge back beautifully and gone through 3/4 inch (18mm ish) branches with ease, but attempting to use this as an axe would be ill advised - I'll use my axe for that.
The design is sublime, very very light with the weight and balance well forward, the handle comfortable and nicely textured.
I am on my own decorating this week and looking after (not very) sick dog so I will ensure I sneak this to my local woods for a test later in the week and do a proper review.
So - thanks to Alfredo for a great design, thanks to Fox for making it and most of all thanks to Ged for patience, organisation and being an utter gentleman throughout. It has been a joy to take part in this GB.
Thanks
Richard
With regards to Alfredos post of the blade rolling - I can understand. This is a Parang, made for lighter chopping duties, I have just cleared a hedge back beautifully and gone through 3/4 inch (18mm ish) branches with ease, but attempting to use this as an axe would be ill advised - I'll use my axe for that.
The design is sublime, very very light with the weight and balance well forward, the handle comfortable and nicely textured.
I am on my own decorating this week and looking after (not very) sick dog so I will ensure I sneak this to my local woods for a test later in the week and do a proper review.
So - thanks to Alfredo for a great design, thanks to Fox for making it and most of all thanks to Ged for patience, organisation and being an utter gentleman throughout. It has been a joy to take part in this GB.
Thanks
Richard
Lighter Chopping duties!?
From what I saw on the video (Parang XL_05giu2010_test batoning 2010_06_05.wmv) in a previos post (linked below), that was FAR from 'lighter chopping duties'! :yikes:
Whats going on?
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58634&page=2&p=712271
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I must admit most of my interest in this thread ( 'coz I have'nt bought one ) is that I am interested to hear how well these thing will do in the Northern Europe arena when tackling Bushcrafty duties.
So I to would be interested in getting some feedback from all you guys that have purchased one.
cheers.
So I to would be interested in getting some feedback from all you guys that have purchased one.
cheers.
Lighter Chopping duties!?
From what I saw on the video (Parang XL_05giu2010_test batoning 2010_06_05.wmv) in a previos post (linked below), that was FAR from 'lighter chopping duties'! :yikes:
Whats going on?
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58634&page=2&p=712271
I mean as in not chopping down 5 to 6 inch trees or working through logs like I saw some kids do at a campsite.
No, I think that what you saw WAS lighter chopping duties. The blade wasn't damaged.
Well thats true! there was a close (ish) up of the blade and it did look OK.
That video was the main reason I bought it, looked well strong!
Would be good to hear from Alfredo on what actually happened to receive such damage?
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Just arrived home to find the parcel waiting for me. The parang looks good and I'm sure it performs as well.
The blade certaily looks strong enough if used in accordance with the probable design intention. I'm sure that the blade would bend if used as a lever but then, surely, this would constitute misuse of the tool.
I look forward to using the parang in "anger" but, in the meantime would like to thank you for all your hard work.
Just arrived home to find the parcel waiting for me. The parang looks good and I'm sure it performs as well.
The blade certaily looks strong enough if used in accordance with the probable design intention. I'm sure that the blade would bend if used as a lever but then, surely, this would constitute misuse of the tool.
I look forward to using the parang in "anger" but, in the meantime would like to thank you for all your hard work.
Hi all,
I would like flare you that yesterday a good friend of mine announced me that his Parang XL reported a damage on the blade (to be precise, a cutting part of blade was bending) working on a seasoned part of false acacie, diameter 6 centimeters.
He was on the XL since 3 weeks, and he was really happy with it, having worked and cleaned a large part of his woodland with XL.
Past saturday he was showing the cutting skills of the XL to his nephew, and he used (a bit too much ardently, he said
I had still not the chance to see the damaged blade.
Well, of course this did'nt make me happy, I just may say that Parang XL was designed and realized to work as a machete, on dense but normally fresh woods. I never had problems since 1.5 months having worked also on dry and hard woods, but who knows maybe I was just lucky.
Regards, Alfredo
PS at least I'll had the bending blade I'll post pics.
Hi all,
first I would like thank all of you for your kind words. I hope you will be satisfied using Parang and Parang XL, anyway any criticism will be also welcomed by me.
About bending blade occurred to my friend, I investigate yesterday with him: 1. my friend said me that he was chopping different branches of seasoned false acacie probably having too much alacrity doing it; 2 he was really happy on past days with the XL as a slicer, so he was looking to cut the branch with just one chop, so he used almost all his body strenght; before the damage he chopped other similar branches of seasoned false acacia without damages at all.
My conclusions about the damage are as follows: the XL is not an all-around knife, is a slicer, with a grind profile and geometry projected to guarantee high cutting performance on dense vegetation, as jungle plants in hot climates or dense brushwoods on temperate climates, avoiding big efforts by the operator. The XL is not projected as a chopper for big trees or seasoned hard wood: false acacie is probably the harder timber here in Europe, with a Brinell hardness of 48 N/mm2 (i.e. Birch has a Brinell hardness of 23 N/mm2, Douglas abies 20 N/mm2, Oak 34 N/mm2), and you may imagine how is the hardness of a seasoned piece of false acacie. This mean that you may not use the XL to batoning or chopping on big branches or big pieces of wood? Not at all, you may do this, I done it several times and never damaged my XL. As per the updates that I receive from FKMD, XL was also still acquired by many persons on past months and till now FKMD had no warning about damages. I think just need to do "heavy" jobs with the XL using brain+strenght and not just strenght: "big knife" don't mean thus and always "hatchet". Hope this help
Alfredo
hi, just like to say thanks to ged for all his hard work. my xl arrived today and its a very nice bit of kit, infact maybe to good to use. the blade looks spot on and very very sharp. the case is very well make and they will both last years if i look after them and i will. i wish i had orderd both of them that where on offer maybe next time . thanks again ged im a very happy chappy. carl
. thanks again ged im a very happy chappy. carl
Thanks Carl, thanks also for kind words from many others. It has been hard work, frustrating at times, but it's been rewarding.
Getawaywithyer!
I have a spare 6" including survival kit if you want one.
This thread is lacking pictures.
Overall, what to people think of the sheath? Is it up to a bimble in the rainforest for a couple of weeks?
Overall, what to people think of the sheath? Is it up to a bimble in the rainforest for a couple of weeks?
Dougster
Pitching for business ;o) (how much?), I do want a leather one for both actually (XL and 6"). The glue on the sheath doesnt quite seem to have taken, still looks a bit "tachy". It isn't falling apart or anything like that, but it doesnt fill me with confidence for it's long term durability.
I must stress that this in no way detracts from how happy i am with the blades, I have cleared a lot of "brush" from the garden today with both of them and am very well with how they both performed.
I didn't really get why people would need one of these types of blades, but now I am hooked!
Pitching for business ;o) (how much?), I do want a leather one for both actually (XL and 6"). The glue on the sheath doesnt quite seem to have taken, still looks a bit "tachy". It isn't falling apart or anything like that, but it doesnt fill me with confidence for it's long term durability.
I must stress that this in no way detracts from how happy i am with the blades, I have cleared a lot of "brush" from the garden today with both of them and am very well with how they both performed.
I didn't really get why people would need one of these types of blades, but now I am hooked!
I was hoping someone else would have posted some by now
but here are some quick ones of the XL for you:http://www2.jubileegroup.co.uk:9811/images/t8057612.jpg
http://www2.jubileegroup.co.uk:9811/images/t8057614.jpg
http://www2.jubileegroup.co.uk:9811/images/t8057619.jpg
Yes, unquestionably. Although one of the press-studs was faulty on one of the XLs I tried all the others and they were fiine. That would be my main concern, but there are three of them on the XL sheath and any one of them would hold the parang in the sheath while you climb a tree or abseil off a cliff or something. The materials of the sheath are strong and through-stitched with strong thread. There's a strong plastic clip like you see on belts and rucksacks which allows the sheath to detach from the belt loop and the belt loop closes with Velcro so I might be inclined to loop a bit of cord around the parts if I didn't need the quick release for a while. But it's a good loop and it's a good strong clip. I looped the belt loop over a rope hanging from the roof of my shed and hung my full fighting weight (65kg) from the sheath and it took it without problem. Glue takes none of the forces. The scales are attached to the blade of the parang using mushroom head socket cap screws and I'd take a 2.5mm Allen key with me if I were going to be out of touch with civilization for a few weeks in case they worked loose with hard use. I haven't used one yet so I don't know if it's even an issue.
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