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Oct 6, 2008
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Cheshire
Yeah though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil.... for I am the meanest mother in the valley.

I'm actually a total woos , I just heard the quote once and found it funny.
 

crushthesystem

Forager
Nov 18, 2009
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Maidstone, Kent
I can't say i've ever had that problem as i'm a hefty lad with tattoos and piercings so i look like a rough sort anyway but if it ever did come to it as my dad always told me "just ask them who is going to step up to take the first punch" and that has worked for me before when the local burberry squad show up.
 

pango

Nomad
Feb 10, 2009
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Fife
TJWUK, there are more than likely 3 lads in your home town telling their mates not to go into the woods, as they saw a really odd looking character in there with a big stick and an axe, and they think he was waiting for someone to stray off the path.
 

Chinkapin

Settler
Jan 5, 2009
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Kansas USA
Tjwuk; I think that you did EXACTLY the right thing. Lets take a close look at just what you did. First, you armed yourself immediately. The choice of a staff is great. A man in the woods standing holding onto his walking staff is hardly threatening or confrontational. In my opinion, next to a firearm, the staff is just about the best weapon you could have. It has reach, leverage, and the ability to break a leg or arm easily, (not to mention a head). In a fight, it would be vastly superior to a knife. Secondly, you stood up and moved about -- now they know you are not some little kid. Thirdly, you packed up your gear, but did it slowly so as to not convey fear. (Never let them see you sweat!) Lastly, you left by a route that they would have difficulty following.

All of your responses were common sense based, non-threatening, but directed toward being prepared and ready to defend yourself, and win, if necessary.

Although, its been said that "paranoia has survival value," there is nothing paranoid about any of your actions. They are the actions of any prudent person.
 

hedgerow pete

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Jan 10, 2010
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smethwick , west midlands
I think your actions were spot on, past experience has shown me a few tricks to avoid the violence on is to have got up like you then dropped down and crawled away and hid, the other way would have been to anounced to them, some thing like hi guys very loudly or shouted to you mate to stop hidding as the brew is on, ha ha ha
 

big_swede

Native
Sep 22, 2006
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I always carry the Gränsforsbruks new Halberd. Great for intimidating anyone with less than honest intentions. They're great for feathersticks too.
 

bearbait

Full Member
In my opinion, next to a firearm, the staff is just about the best weapon you could have. It has reach, leverage, and the ability to break a leg or arm easily, (not to mention a head). In a fight, it would be vastly superior to a knife.

Respectfully, I would only partly agree with the knife comment: the initial strike(s) from the staff must be with maximum speed and maximum force to immediately disable your opponent. Otherwise once the person with the knife has you within his range, and is therefore within your guard, he/she will have the advantage. The knife-wielder will surely take some punishment but you will be cut. Stabs aren't necessary; multiple cuts will slow you down and you will bleed to death.
 

Melonfish

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jan 8, 2009
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trip wire and 12 guage blank ?

http://www.xsiteairsoftshop.co.uk/dynatec-blank-firing-grenade-212-p.asp

just a thought :) - i dread to think of the legalities of this.

Ugh! i've tripped a 9mm version of these and thats enough, i've heard the 12gauge blanks go off from accross an airsoft site!
you'd certainly scare off just about everything within 200 yards!

as for knife verses staff, well my old Aikido sensei used to say something about confrontation. See it was during a day of extremely excruciating knife disarm/attack stuff when he said.
"Simply put if someone comes at you with a knife, what do you do?"
after some discussion over technique the correct answer turned out to be:
"Run"
i think thats pretty common sense and it makes you realise how dangerous knives can be in the wrong hands. if a 5th dan Aikido Sensei would rather Run from a knife then use his years and years of training, confidence and technique to disarm Uke then simple put i would not want to try it either!

As for staffs, i'm a BIG fan, first of all they *look* intimidating, second they can be wielded with either precision or with force which make them fantastic HTH weapons. Alot of people seem to believe that a staff should be used like a club, or held in two hands and spar with it like 'Little John' in all the robin hood clones.
Amazing how much trouble you can cause with a simple jab or thrust from a staff, how much leverage you can apply to a body in motion and how much you can just throw people about without them realising that they can in fact fly for a few seconds.
plus they're great for keeping you upright, pitching a basha, testing wading depth and attracting funny looks from people as you walk down the highstreet :D
 

Glydr

Member
Feb 17, 2010
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Wirral
Never had any such encounters like that fortunately, always have a big german shepherd with me anyway, so Im never really worried about such things
 

lannyman8

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jan 18, 2009
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Dark side of the Moon
this is e realy good thread and great tips all round......

im lucky though its never happened to me but if it did........ STAND BY!!!!!!!!! is all i say.
 
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LordRose

Guest
I recall once I was within seconds of pulling my knife on a few chavs on a long solo cycle expedition. It was a pitch black alley way and my bike was across the pavement as I checked a map, since I had headphones in and the light prevented any peripheral vision these two hoodies took me by complete surprise and then began to get aggressive for no particular reason. I think my overly nice reply to their rudeness prevented any confrontation but it is worrying.

I often sleep with a knife in my sleeping bag when Im solo. Its amazing how comforting a knife is to cuddle when your scared lol.
 
Oct 6, 2008
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Cheshire
"I often sleep with a knife in my sleeping bag when Im solo. Its amazing how comforting a knife is to cuddle when your scared lol"

I sometimes sleep with a pillow under my knife.
 
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LordRose

Guest
"I often sleep with a knife in my sleeping bag when Im solo. Its amazing how comforting a knife is to cuddle when your scared lol"

I sometimes sleep with a pillow under my knife.

That sounds like some wise proverb lol
 

Tye Possum

Nomad
Feb 7, 2009
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Canada
Walks with dogs said:
I sometimes sleep with a pillow under my knife.
I don't know... Sounds kind of uncomfortable. I'd try putting the knife under the pillow.:D

It's interesting though, how if something freaks us out in the woods a lot of us go straight for our knife or axe. If it's nothing then everything's fine, or if someone is there but they turn around and leave, but what if someone is there and they keep on coming? A knife's great for scaring people off but after that, if they're not scared you might be in trouble if you don't know how to use that knife for self defense.

I think it's probably a good idea to keep your knife out of the confrontation to begin with, unless you really end up needing it to protect your life. First of all, because if you end up injuring them or worse with that knife and they had nothing then you may have a hard time explaining to the police why you felt you should use a knife against an unarmed person. Or if they manage to disarm you and take the knife, then you're in real trouble. Maybe you should try to let them know that you know they're there like some people in this thread have done, or of course running is a pretty good idea.
I'm just saying that getting stabbed probably isn't too fun but it becomes a bigger possibility if you introduce a knife into the (possible) fight to begin with, so unless you're up against a group or someone who's armed, it's probably safer (a little) to try fighting them off with your fists or just plain running.

Maybe this isn't appropriate to talk about but I think that it's something to think about instead of relying on holding something scary to scare the bad guy off. This is just what I was thinking though, I'm no self defense expert and it's really up to you to decide if you should pull your knife out or not.
 

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