How much are women able to carry?

[santaman2000]

What the hells that got to do with blow up dolls?

Well if you intend to travel a long distance the doll needs to stay inflated long enough to carry its fair share.

 

[mousey]

What the hells that got to do with blow up dolls?

Surely you don't want either you or your blow up doll to be too knackered by the end of the hike to relax and enjoy yourself...?

 

[Erbswurst]

It really helps if the doll is filled with helium and attached to the rucksack.

The webbing at the flap of military rucksacks is mainly meant for this.

 

[santaman2000]

Should the question really be about how much women can carry? Or is it more important what they choose to carry? https://www.facebook.com/ragebroadheads/photos/a.220194051335894/914322878589671?type=3&sfns=mo

 

[SaraR]

The weight of a pack is irrelevant... it's how far that you have to move it that is the problem

And whether it's on the flat or up/down steep hills.

 

[oldtimer]

It really helps if the doll is filled with helium and attached to the rucksack.

The webbing at the flap of military rucksacks is mainly meant for this.

Could the helium be replaced by hot air? This thread has demonstrated that we are well able to generate it.

 

[Erbswurst]

Isn't methane lighter as air too?

Perhaps that's a good option for civil use.

 

[Erbswurst]

@SaraR

Which trekking rucksacks do you use?
Did you inform yourself well about trekking rucksacks especially for women?

Are they just shorter or are there other differences?

If yes, that's perhaps worth an own thread?

 

[SaraR]

@SaraR

Which trekking rucksacks do you use?
Did you inform yourself well about trekking rucksacks especially for women?

Are they just shorter or are there other differences?

If yes, that's perhaps worth an own thread?

My choice of backpack really depends on what I'm doing (as you might expect).

I've got an old 60L Haglöfs Sho-sho 6000 Women's rucksack that's very comfortable and great for heavy loads and fits my back/hips well, but it's a heavy bag.

I recently got a lighter 50L backpack from Urberg, which is big enough for weekend overnight hiking trips (and longer too), but nimble enough for day hikes in he mountains. This is the one I use for winter hikes and fieldwork that involves more walking. It's unisex but still fits well on the back and hips, although the shoulder straps don't fit a female physique as well as a dedicated women's pack would. The main niggles with this sack are that the slim and curved profile means it can be hard to pack bulkier items and the floating lid is annoying if the sack isn't full.

Then I have a sturdy 42+3L Lundhags (unisex) that I use for winter walks and that used to be my main bag for glacier work and a 35L Vaude bag for days out in the hills.

For dirty fieldwork (mines, rivers, mud in general) that doesn't involve long walks, or just hauling gear, I also have a black army surplus daysack, or I borrow a short back surplus bergen. These are harder on the back though, so there's a definite tradeoff there.

I'd say that a female specific fit can be a great improvement and often is the best choice, but sometimes they fit worse than unisex if you don't have the type of shapes the designers had in mind, especially when it comes to the hip belt. Women's backpacks are usually lower volume too, which annoys the hell out of me.

 

[Erbswurst]

That I can imagine!

Low weight is nice, but no volume for a winter sleeping bag???

 

[Janne]

You just fix the sleeping bag below the bag, if you have something heavy you need to strap on
to the top. If not, top.

I like my bag outside the main backpack 'bag'. Frees up space inside.

 

[Erbswurst]

Most modern civil rucksacks I have seen don't really offer the option to attach something over or under the rucksack.

And I expect the perfect female fit from a modern rucksack, not from a bag of the eighties.

 

[Fadcode]

Most modern civil rucksacks I have seen don't really offer the option to attach something over or under the rucksack.

And I expect the perfect female fit from a modern rucksack, not from a bag of the eighties.

I think you hit the nail on the head, and no we don't want a long discussion about what hammer to use when hitting the nail on the head:***::***:

Most modern rucksacks are in my opinion not designed for hiking, they are made down to a cost not quality, if you look back to the earlier rucksacks, the 80's, these were the ones that were innovative in design albeit they were quite heavy as the material used were mainly canvas,etc, but as you can still buy these are a testament to their value and longevity.

I find that most of the modern---non military style--- rucksacks are not very well designed and don't offer the options of the earlier models they tend to be too gimmicky, and lacking in separate compartments.
I myself mainly use a LK35 which I must admit was at first quite uncomfortable, but once adjusted and fettled to suit becomes quite comfortable, and coupled with the external frame is quite useful.
But again it depends on the individual, and what needs to be carried, for example how many modern rucksacks have a fitting to carry an axe, as well as straps for external things such as wood, sleeping bags, mats etc.as well as good internal dimensions.
I do agree a sticky about rucksacks would be a good thing with honest reviews,

 

[Janne]

The only way to be able to have a fully adjustable and well fitting system is to have a (welldesigned) exterior frame.
Those should be made in two sizes.

Google Coleman polymer frame and you will see a good design.

 

[santaman2000]

It really helps if the doll is filled with helium and attached to the rucksack.......

Isn't methane lighter as air too?

Perhaps that's a good option for civil use.

But wouldn’t helium or methane in an inflatable doll be just as immoral as an Olympian using steroids?

 

[Janne]

Not sure about the moral aspect, I guess from which culture you are, but it could be perceived as ‘exotic’ as you would have to tie the doll to some stakes, or a tree.

Imagine the Steam Tent Cooperatives meetings, and you are tying the doll to a tree!!!

 

[santaman2000]

Not sure about the moral aspect, I guess from which culture you are, but it could be perceived as ‘exotic’ as you would have to tie the doll to some stakes, or a tree.

Imagine the Steam Tent Cooperatives meetings, and you are tying the doll to a tree!!!

Hey; performance enhancing drugs are still performance enhancing drugs. If inflatable dolls can use them then Olympians should be allowed also.

 

[Erbswurst]

As you know, I am a German, and the word "fair" can be used in between German sentences, but you can't translate it to a German word.

Fair play is an idiotic British idea in my opinion. And so the question about moral and immoral depends where you come from, as Janne said.

I would use such a doll. Why not?

But what I mainly use is ultra light equipment in military colours, instead of real military equipment.

And I usually ask the others to bring an axe, a saw, a hobo stove and a first aid kit with them, if possible a power bank, a solar charger and a big GPS monster.

And if that's not enough I put in the night some well sized stones in the rucksacks of the others and some very small ones in theyr boots.

That isn't interdicted in Torah, Bible or Koran, and so it's OK in my opinion.

 

[GuestD]

As you know, I am a German, and the word "fair" can be used in between German sentences, but you can't translate it to a German word.

Fair play is an idiotic British idea in my opinion. And so the question about moral and immoral depends where you come from, as Janne said.

I would use such a doll. Why not?

But what I mainly use is ultra light equipment in military colours, instead of real military equipment.

And I usually ask the others to bring an axe, a saw, a hobo stove and a first aid kit with them, if possible a power bank, a solar charger and a big GPS monster.

And if that's not enough I put in the night some well sized stones in the rucksacks of the others and some very small ones in theyr boots.

That isn't interdicted in Torah, Bible or Koran, and so it's OK in my opinion.

Speechless.

Any excuse to use that emoji.

As you were.

Fair play and all that.

 

[Fadcode]

Fawlty Towers comes to mind