Help/advice. LEZ penalty charge.

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Quixoticgeek

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Aug 4, 2013
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You've lost me? The LEZ is relevant to bushcrafting?

Sorry, but unless you buy into the link between the flawed CO2 modelling used by a diminishing group of scientists who treat it like some sort of religious relic, the LEZ is nothing more than a traffic calming measure to control the flow of traffic in one of the busiest cities in the UK. The punitive penalties dished out to those unaware of the latest gimmick employed by authorities who pretend to have any interest in the environment are a joke and I disagree it will be applied elsewhere. Manchester, Birmingham and Bristol have already rejected it, along with the other fantasy suggestions.

Can you clarify, are you disputing an anthronic cause of climate change?

The LEZ is about air quality more than CO2. This covers stuff like PM and NO levels.

J
 

dewi

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May 26, 2015
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You want me to check every 5 min just in case it changes? I think you are willfully ignoring information.

I have all the information relating to what we were discussing, and I posted something called 'evidence' in another thread....

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137010

That was posted up yesterday to avoid this thread going off on a tangent.

If you believe you can refute said evidence, please feel free to and any questions you have, again, feel free. But saying I'm willfully ignoring information whilst providing me with no information or proof doesn't make you right I'm afraid.
 
Running a painting company in south London I always get worried about this stuff. We have to our vans to central London every day as we have no choice. I suppose in couple of years we will end up taking all our work stuff by bus to avoid all the charges...
 
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Tonyuk

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Nov 30, 2011
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Meanwhile in China they are getting on with making money and keeping the economy strong, although its slowing a bit recently. All this LEZ and carbon emissions nonsense we have in the UK is nothing more than money making, not only for own own filth in government but the EU germ-pile as a whole. Anyone who believes that the emissions coming from a place as small on the global scale as the UK having any effect on the climate as a whole is dreaming. We could go back to horse & cart, wood burning stoves and no electricity tomorrow and the climate would still get warmer. I doubt it would even register as a difference of about 2%.

Tonyuk
 

Swallow

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May 27, 2011
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Meanwhile in China they are getting on with making money and keeping the economy strong, although its slowing a bit recently. All this LEZ and carbon emissions nonsense we have in the UK is nothing more than money making, not only for own own filth in government but the EU germ-pile as a whole. Anyone who believes that the emissions coming from a place as small on the global scale as the UK having any effect on the climate as a whole is dreaming. We could go back to horse & cart, wood burning stoves and no electricity tomorrow and the climate would still get warmer. I doubt it would even register as a difference of about 2%.

Tonyuk

Try switching out the Scottish Air for London Air.

THe LEZ was introduced as a way of not being embarrased in the 2012 Olympics when Beijing got grief about the smog just before their olympics.

The study by respected academics has the death toll from air pollution in the capital hitting nearly 10,000 a year.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...more-people-die-early-each-year-10389902.html

you can write that off as Media scare mongering to support a financial scam when you are breathing the air 3 or 4 hundred miles away, but breathing the air in question leaves less doubt.
 

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