Fear of the dark

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Leiflet

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Jun 5, 2013
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tsitenha

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Dec 18, 2008
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Kanata
My father took me out in the bush at night when I was 5-6 yrs old, to listen, interpret what I heard, see what I could and make out shadows and objects. At first within eye sight of him then out of sight, all the time being quiet. After a while he would leave, go have a beer (or 2,3,4) and come back and get me, silent as a ghost. It was to me to listen and hear him sneaking up on me. Spent a lot of time like this, all nighters. I failed to do this with my own son, to the same extent, but would go with him to hear the night noises or out in thunder storms to see Creators fireworks. He still wakes up at night as I do to experience this even though we are not living close anymore.
 

Clouston98

Woodsman & Beekeeper
Aug 19, 2013
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Never been scared of the dark and I dont believe in any of the daft ghost stories etc.
There's nothing to be afraid of in England really maybe some human nutters, hopefully not, but , if there were bears I would be terrified :yikes:
 

Trango

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Feb 1, 2011
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Europe
Living on the European mainland we have little to fear indeed. Wolves are spreading again, which is good, and is no threat to humans. I spend a lot of time in the US and still have a hard time dealing with the potential of bears. Just not use to it.
 

santaman2000

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Jan 15, 2011
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Living on the European mainland we have little to fear indeed. Wolves are spreading again, which is good, and is no threat to humans.....

Really?

Outdoors International » Blog » Wolf Attacks Woman in Idaho (updated)

Wolf Attacks Woman in Idaho (updated)

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In an email from her son:
Last night I received a phone call from my mother who lives in Headquarters. She informed me that on Sunday while bow hunting she was attacked by a wolf. A few of you know that she is not your typical mother or grandmother. She has worked as a professional hunting guide for many years, so she has spent many hours in the woods. She has seen wolves on many occasions and this is the first time one came at her. She said as soon as the wolf saw her it charged. She was able to drop her bow, draw her 44 mag out of its holster, and put 1 round in the wolfs head at a range of a few feet.
Please let any of your family and friends know of this so they can take whatever precautions needed while out in the woods.”
SEE A VIDEO OF HER INTERVIEW HERE »
Here is another email we received about wolf attacks:
“This wolf came running toward Rene last night to attack her. She had to drop her bow & pull her pistol. She shot it in the head about 10 feet from her. She had to shoot it a couple more times to actually kill it. Crazy! This – not even a week after Shane’s dogs were killed by wolves.”
He also told about a group of hunters being guided by a local outfitter in his email. Here’s what they said:
“Took a group of out-of-state elk archery hunters from the Great Lakes region last week. They ended up calling in a pack of 17 wolves by elk cow calling. None of the hunters had a sidearm or wolf tag and it was a very traumatic experience. The wolves surrounded us. All of those hunters went home early, very disturbed claiming that these wolves are very different from the Great Lakes wolves. These Idaho wolves actually “hunt” you, and were not afraid!”
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Bowlander

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Nov 28, 2011
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The wolves probably associate bow hunters with an easy meal - gralloch or wounded animals. There's no shot noise to scare them off.

The trophy pics were probably to help her overcome the traumatic experience of killing a wolf with no tag.

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tallywhacker

Forager
Aug 3, 2013
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United Kingdom
In the article it clearly says she had encountered wolves many times and this is the only time she had been attacked. In the latter section the group that was surrounded was making a call of their prey so they clearly didn't intend to track and hunt humans. Nothing to write home about really.

That being said even in the lake district i am iffy at night time, i worry about big cats as there have been a few sightings in the area. You probably would too if you had seen the state of some of the sheep carcasses (torn up and strung over several meters) and marks on trees (vertical claw marks) xD I keep telling myself it is simply either a fox on steroids or my neighbour on a full moon LoL.
 

Uilleachan

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Aug 14, 2013
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Northwest Scotland
The woman called the wolf in with her elk cow call whistle, instead of a bull elk she got a hungry wolf, but by the look of the photos she doesn't look disappointed.

The wolf and the bear are making a real comeback in western europe. Croatia now has over a 1000 bears up from just a few individuals 20 years ago. But then again bears and wolves have always been present in the balkans, romania being the stronghold. French shepherds in south eastern france are moaning and blaming the wolf for taking some 20,000 sheep since the wolf started moving back across the maritime alps from italy, which in turn are moving into italy and austria from slovenia in the former yugoslavia. Same is happening in germany from animals moving in from population centers in the woods of Belorussia and the mountains of Poland and Slovakia. A rare EU eco success story.

Then again there are scarier things in the woods of europe than wolves and bears, and not just the woods, domestic dogs in particular and people, account for the vast vast majority of the harm to humans.

I travel to one or two wolf and bear hot spots in europe quite regularly through work, last year in Predial (in the woods above Brasov Transylvanian Romania) we couldn't figure out why the dogs would all start barking around the same time each evening. I was staying on the edge of town in a cabin with a few work colleagues, our host when asked informed us that it was just bears creeping around in the nearby woods and the dogs were just scenting and reacting to them, but not to worry, they don't come into town that often :naughty:

I've wandered every road in my locality at night in my time, on my own usually and despite the fact that I know almost every ghost story associated with each bend and hollow, I've never had a bad experience from a supernatural source, all my frights have come from meeting others similarly hoofing it in the dark or my own vivid youthful imagination. Thats not to say I haven't had supernatural experiences wandering the road at night, it's just that those experiences, whatever they were, weren't actually scary at the time, quite the opposite actually.

Edit to add a link (if one can get over both the source and the headline ;));

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-Western-Europe-time-100-years.html?oo=312
 
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Samon

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Mar 24, 2011
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Ugh.. trophy kill photos.

And as to having nothing to fear in little ol' England, well.. you are wrong. We may not be plagued by a vast array of large hungry predators but we do have a large number of violent idiots and very little room to our selves. Meaning, a bear won't be eating your face in the night but a junkie might.

No?

Sadly my buddies were beaten with mallets while sleeping in their tent when they decided to stay out one night in the local area. One of them was hit all over the head, back and arms and was in a terribley bloody and bruised state. They also tried to set fire to their tent!

I'll take a timid wild animal over a piece of crap sociopath anyday!
 

santaman2000

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Jan 15, 2011
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The wolves probably associate bow hunters with an easy meal - gralloch or wounded animals. There's no shot noise to scare them off.

The trophy pics were probably to help her overcome the traumatic experience of killing a wolf with no tag.

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No tag is required for self defense. Yes obviously the wolves were answering the elk call. But so what? Not sure the sound of a gunshot would have deterred them; gunshots attract grizzlies for the same reason (an easy meal)
 

Dave-the-rave

Settler
Feb 14, 2013
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minsk
I've no fear of the dark but I can feel somewhat vulnerable sleeping in a tent. I think it's because I can't see out while anyone outside can see exactly where I am. I don't feel like that under a tarp.
 

atlatlman

Settler
Dec 21, 2006
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ipswich
I go camping in the woods a lot on my own and have never been scared once. I actually can't wait for night time. During the day I'm more jittery because you can see every flicker or movement between the trees. Once my camp fire is going strong and just lighting up my little patch, it's like having my own little room in the woods. My mate said he would never go on his own because you never know if there is a madman in the woods. I just told him that I was the one with the axe and that any nutters should be afraid of me. To be honest with you all, I'd be more afraid of walking through town late at night.
 
Feb 5, 2014
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Glasgow
Fear of the dark and claustrophobia are fairly similar. Even though when your in the woods its big and open, when darkness descends it can feel very small around you. Because your night fire effectively blinds you to everything on the opposite side of it from you. Construct some (3 or 4) simple Pine pitch candles/ torches and put them 8 to ten feet behind your night fire taking into consideration that you dont want to burn your forest down. Keep em nice and low and these candles/torches will light up the area beyond your fire allowing you to see more around your camp area untill you fall asleep. Pine pitch torches are quite labour and time consuming so they are not ideal for an every night solution but should buy you the time in the woods where you can get to grips with "In the UK we're the biggest baddest things in the woods!" and feel more comfortable at night. You may also want to try moving away from your camp fire to let your night vision completely adjust, then you should be able to see using only star and moon light.

Hope this helps.
 

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