Estonia Kit List - Comments Please

[ex-member BareThrills]

Hi All. Im off to Estonia in the spring (end March) and am trying to get my kit list sorted so i can trial it. Have set out below what i have come up with so far but as it will be my first real overseas bushcraft trip i would welcome comments on what is there, what is not and what might be better. Im not aiming for super light. Weather that time of year is difficult to predict and could be anywhere from +10 to -15. Obviously i will check the weather nearer the time but hopefully the list will allow me to cope with whatever comes my way. im still missing a few weights which are mainly on the clothing in the bergen but i will update this when ive had time to weigh stuff.

Ill be getting transport to the Laheema national Park but will be tabbing about from there on

Still need to think about a bear bag so any recommendations would be good

The list.......


Item Name weight

Bergen Verizon Wolverine Monolith 70 + 2 10l Rocket Pouches 3050 Dry Bag Main 98 Dry Bag Sleeping Bag 55 Dry Bags x 2 for Rockets 160 Shelter Golit Shangrala 5 Outer Only + Pole 1200 Sleep System Jerven Thermo king 1900 Western Mountaineering Megalite Down Bag 710 Exped UL Down mat 7LW 600 Helsport Bivvy Shoes 450 Stove Element 2.2 Ti Wood Burning Stove 141 Civvy Trangia Burner in dry bag 140 Trangia 1l Fuel Bottle 160 1l Fuel on arrival 1000 Pots Pans Brew Snowpeak 1.4l Ti Pot 210 Alpkit 750 Mug 110 Ti Spork 20 Pot Scourer sponge 10 Admin DPM Wash Bag 80 Lifeventure Soap 125 Toothbrush & Paste 100 Microfiber Cloth x 2 50 Microfiber Towel 200 Ortlieb Shower Attachment 10 Foot powder 150 Ipood Trowel 100 Mirror 22 Tick Tweezer 10 Bog Roll 50 Wipes 100 FAK 200 Possibles Bag snugpak Response Pack 440 Contents eGear EQ2 Head Torch 26 Exotac Nanostriker 18 Quantum DD Torch 18 Small Alox SAK 16 peanut lighter 26 Tinder Card 100 Lummi Raw Torch & Battery 40 Nite Ize DomeLit 50 Tritium Marker 10 Bic Lighters X 4 Ranger Bands 10000 mah usb charge pack 125 Spare Coin Cells for Lights 50 Ecig & Juice 200 Data Logger Thermometer 10 Micro Lithium Charger 10 Phone + 2 Spare Batteries 250 170 Alpkit Padded Cell phone case 10 Mora 110 Double Stuuf Sharpener 98 Wallet, Tickets, Cash, Card, Docs 200 Mozzie Head Net 15 Wilmas Mossie Juice 20 Dymeema 2mm x 30m Uco Mini with Reflector and 5 Tealites Whistle Compass 40 Map 150 Water & Treatment 10 litre Ortleib water bladder 125 Drinksafe Explorer Canteen 1.0 litre 230 Millbank 80 Sea to Summit Ultra Sil Kitchen Sink 10L 49 Food Buy on Arrival - Allow 3kg 3000 Clothes - Worn Beanie Gloves - Hestra Czone Pickup Merino wool long johns and Base 5.11 Tactical Shirt Buffalo 6 Shirt Ventile Trousers Woolpower Socks Boots - Scarpas In Pack Arktis waterproof Smock. Crocs Woolpower Socks X2 Spare Underwear x2 Spare Base Layer merino buff 1 x 5.11 Tactical Shirt Spare Trousers Craghoppers outfit for return flight T shirt & Craghoppers 16727

 

[Martti]

I do not know about Estonia but there is still snow in Southern Finland at the end of March. How are you planning to move around? There are no mosquitos during the time of your visit so nets and such are unnecessary. I would also change the boots on your list to taller, waterproof rubber boots.

 

[MartinK9]

Looks a good list Paul.

The trouble with them is that they are personal to you and you alone.

You might want more than one torch and method of charging your phone, others wouldn't and there's the rub, their personal choice becomes yours.

If you want to carry it, you carry it mate, only then will you dump the extras on your next trip.

Good luck mate and have a great time -

PS...... Pics and lots of them

 

[Mesquite]

You might want more than one torch and method of charging your phone, others wouldn't and there's the rub, their personal choice becomes yours....

PS...... Pics and lots of them

On that note where's the camera or are you going to rely on your phone to take pics as well?

If that's the case then Martin's suggestion of an additional means of charging is something worth thinking about

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

I do not know about Estonia but there is still snow in Southern Finland at the end of March. How are you planning to move around? There are no mosquitos during the time of your visit so nets and such are unnecessary. I would also change the boots on your list to taller, waterproof rubber boots.

Hi Martti. If it looks like the thaw is late i will have to look into a pulk and snow shoes for moving about and add a snow shovel to the list. I will have access to a car but to be honest i would rather just park it up and explore on foot.

Thanks for the advice on head net and boots. My scarpas are waterproof and i was hoping with gaiters i could get away with them but ill look into other options.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

On that note where's the camera or are you going to rely on your phone to take pics as well?

If that's the case then Martin's suggestion of an additional means of charging is something worth thinking about

Hi Steve. Photos will be via the phone. im really impressed with the galaxy S3 and it has quite a few features to turn out good photos

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Looks a good list Paul.

The trouble with them is that they are personal to you and you alone.

You might want more than one torch and method of charging your phone, others wouldn't and there's the rub, their personal choice becomes yours.

If you want to carry it, you carry it mate, only then will you dump the extras on your next trip.

Good luck mate and have a great time -

PS...... Pics and lots of them

Hi Martin

ive got 2 torches on the list, quantum DD key ring job 0-90 lumen, Lummi Raw (50/200 lumen but compact) and im also carrying a head light and a dome light for in the shelter. 10amp usb charging pack is also included on the list although im part way through making a 20amp version.

 

[Man of Tanith]

pics for the thread paul
all nicely set up for inspection :0

looks like you should have a fun one

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

pics for the thread paul
all nicely set up for inspection :0

Maybe when im getting ready for the TORM meet mate. Still one or two bits on the list not arrived yet too like tent and exped UL

 

[rik_uk3]

If you get stuck for the tent you can use my Hex3.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Cheers Rik, Very kind of you. My golite should be here before christmas from AndyBB US emporium

 

[rik_uk3]

No problem, the Hex3 and bug nest is just sitting on a shelf, not pitched in two years

 

[Fat Rog]

Better to have something and not need it that to need it and not have it. I'd add a stick of lipsyl, a pair of shades, a wire saw, waterproof matches and a sewing kit. I always pack a hi-viz vest just in case I get lost or owt and they send out a search party, 'cos it's easier to spot from a distance than my DPMs .

 

[Twodogs]

Mate your a techy and it shows

Theres a lot of gear there that can be removed be harsh all your chargers can stay in your hire car.
You dont need that many torchs maybe use a couple of tea light in your tent at night far better than torch light when your on your own and demons come
Little things like trowals you can live without .

Dont get me wrong dont cut down on safety just some of the small things ,


Cooking maybe cook on wood ( have some fail safe fire starting methods sorted ) on a light stove it means theres no need to worry about how much fuel you use and gives a good boost for morale .

Keep all you kit simple replace the peanut lighter with a handfull of biks dont look as nice but one will work ,


We all have a different take on packing and you need to find what works for you

All the best for the trip

Twodogs

 

[sam_acw]

You'll need to keep a close eye on the weather. I know Estonia has different weather to here but I've seen snow and -15 in late March and also bright sun and close to +20

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

You'll need to keep a close eye on the weather. I know Estonia has different weather to here but I've seen snow and -15 in late March and also bright sun and close to +20

Hi Sam

Yes i understand that time of year is the most difficult to predict. Ive been speaking to Jaan of this parish and he said that some years in Estonia he has driven to the islands over the ice and other years it has been warm enough to swim in the sea . I will judge nearer to the time

 

[Teepee]

Nice kit list Paul and great looking trip

I always take some Hippo (like gaffer tape but permanently waterproof) tape wrapped around something and a lump of Polymorph.

Needle and thread, Hippo tape and Polymorph will mend almost anything.

Also, I'd ensure that the pots I took could be used easily over a fire too.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Nice kit list Paul and great looking trip

I always take some Hippo (like gaffer tape but permanently waterproof) tape wrapped around something and a lump of Polymorph.

Needle and thread, Hippo tape and Polymorph will mend almost anything.

Also, I'd ensure that the pots I took could be used easily over a fire too.

That polymorph looks like cracking kit. Can it be remoulded once youve used the granules to form a lump by chucking back in hot water?

 

[EdS]

ditch the 5.11 shirt you will be wearing with the Buffalo top. Extra weight and reducing the effectiveness of the Buffalo.

i found the Montane version good to below -15 with just a merino t shirt under - and that was more t okeep the shirt cleeaner. Once move and around -10 its was Pile and pertex top alone.

 

[Teepee]

Yes bud, over and over again. Heat it to over 50c and it moulds, heat it over 100c and it turns to hot glue. Its stronger than Nylon too and It stays flexible in the -30 freezer test

Just don't try making a spork out of it