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CLEM

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might be against the Forum Rules too.

My interpretations can be quite vivid!

Another of my favourites was ( is!) Tin Tin.

The generation after me in Sweden could not have the pleasure of those cartoon books ( do they say 'Graphic Novels these days?) as they got banned.

I even have Tin Tin in Soviet, and Tin Tin in Congo!
They got banned, really??? Surely your joking.
 

Janne

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Sadly, no.

Biggles was also under severe scrutiny, some books were banned.
But, on the other hand, the book Lady Chatterley's Lover was never banned, the movies A Clockwork Orange and Caligula were shown uncut.

Shows how the different States want us to be educated!!!!!
After watching A Clockwork and Caligula, you are ready for every situation in life!
:)
 
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CLEM

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Sadly, no.

Biggles was also under severe scrutiny, some books were banned.
But, on the other hand, the book Lady Chatterley's Lover was never banned, the movies A Clockwork Orange and Caligula were shown uncut.

Shows how the different States want us to be educated!!!!!
After watching A Clockwork and Caligula, you are ready for every situation in life!
:)
And the reason it was banned mate?
 

Janne

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I had to search. Stereotyping, racism, colonialism.
Specially Tin Tin in Congo, that one seems to be banned in several countries.
Afrofobic.
( that is a new word for me!)

Some libraries in Sweden seems to have kept some of the Tin Tin books. But not in the Youth section.

I wonder if little Archie will be able to read Tin Tin and Biggles?
They must have exceptional childrens libraries in the various palaces and lodges?
 

CLEM

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I had to search. Stereotyping, racism, colonialism.
Specially Tin Tin in Congo, that one seems to be banned in several countries.
Afrofobic.
( that is a new word for me!)

Some libraries in Sweden seems to have kept some of the Tin Tin books. But not in the Youth section.
Exactly as I figured, how depressing. However I'll not speak my mind on the matter
 

Janne

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We should not censor books. Books are a mirror of the time when they were written.
It is like rewriting history.
Wrong.

By censoring, the authorities show that we are not allowed to think freely, in fact that we are to stupid to think in general.

Tin Tin shoots a bunch of animals in the Congo book, also shoots a Gorilla, skins it and drsses in the skin.
I do not think it makes anybody an indiscriminate animal butcher.
 
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santaman2000

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......PS I'm biased a bit about usa having known my American grandad and having met. Some of his sisters. Always proud of that heritage, especially since it goes right back into the origins of modern USA and the early settlements (traced back to England for added personal satisfaction). :)
I suppose it depends on what you mean by the “modern USA.” The Constitution was written by former British colonists with English common law in mind and that concept is still the heart of federal law as well as the original 13 states.

However expansion since has brought in the other states with other cultures (primarily colonized by French and Spanish, but with even one state that was a Russian colony) Many states have their state law asked on the Napoleonic Code rather the English common law now.
 
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The real value of the monarchy is not in the power it holds, which is largely ceremonial in our case and that of most of Northern Europe, but in the power it denies to others.

There are many, some quite recent, who would have gone all out to have taken such power for themselves if the vacuum had existed.
Margret thatcher and tony blair used the queen like a puppet. Even if you are pro royal, the simple fact that we have a monarchy that can be used in a way of such for certain peoples own personal points is a good enough reason to alter it alot. Absolute power without accountancy or even responsibility. (for non partisan non political point one was labour one tory so a neutral point about polititians taking power) they do deny others power also, power to have citizens rights.

It must be nice and quite a suprise for prince phillip, for him to be part of the victims side of a race storm.On a further point harry says archie has a bit of facial hair already
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Janne

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Prince Philip is of a pure German heritage, close to a Century old, and I think we should forgive him the occasional oldfashioned view.

Thank Gods he does not drive on public roads anymore though....
:)
 

Tengu

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Herge was politicaly naive, said some daft stuff and did indeed promote steriotypes, (often with reason)

But willfully racist? No. He spoke out against that.

And Tintin in the Congo (one of his first books and it shows) was accepted and indeed loved in that area.

(Same goes for W. E Johns...)

(and Kipling)
 
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Macaroon

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Prince Philip is of a pure German heritage, close to a Century old, and I think we should forgive him the occasional oldfashioned view.

Thank Gods he does not drive on public roads anymore though....
:)
No Sir, Greek & Danish heritage if memory serves.
 

Janne

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Nope!
The vast majority of his family are German, mainly from Schleswig Holstein. With one or two Russians thrown in for goid measure
The Danish connection is that one of his ancestors ( granddad? Great grandad?) became king of Denmark.
The Danish Royal house have been of a German family for hundreds of years, since late Middle Ages.

It was that kings son who became king of Greece. Do not remember why, I think it was because Greece had nobody suitable after the previous ( German) king had to step down because of British meddling during the Crimean war.

So in short, the dear Prince Philip is genetically German with a hint of Russian.

My king ( Sweden) is not much Swedish family wise. French/German/British.

It matters not much, as they all do a superb job.
 
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Toddy

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Y'know what archaeology shows ?
That the Vikings mostly ended up in the poorest, swampiest bits of land.
They came from really poor land that they'd overcrowded since they'd managed to master the production of iron. Iron meant iron ploughs so they'd opened up as much arable land as they could, and within two generations so many extra children lived because there was food enough that they had an overpopulation problem. That's what drove the Viking diaspora.

Thing is though, they raided, but when they landed and settled they had to either fit in or be killed off. Hard working folks usually married in and settled down, but their farmsteads are in what are now sub marginal lands, which weren't the best lands back then either, even if they were productive, and apparently better than Scandinavia.
Scotland is rich farmland for Northern climes, but note how the Vikings ended up in the fringes, or even in Yorkshire (York regularly floods, even now York floods) their towns were a push to trade. In the Lake District (now considered 'picturesque', back then it was just tough land) their farms are high, on the very edges of dales where it's a hard scrabble life.

So, raiders, slavers, traders, and not as successful in any of that as some believe. Too many folks just struggling to make a living.
Opportunistic and within two generations no longer either pagan or foreign either.

In truth Europe's a melting pot with too many wars and too much human suffering. Seems to drive development, invention, creativity, etc., though.

M
 

Janne

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You are 100% correct,
Grnerations later, in the 1800’, Europe experienced a cold snap.
Most of the population livrd on small acre farms. Very bad doils, compared with the rest of Europe.
Starvation.
But as Northern America had just opened for immigration by Scandis, they had the opportunity to leave.
Many ended up in the Michigan area. In the letters home, they all had the same theme.
Fantastic soil.
Sweden lost about 1/4 of the population between 1850’ and 1920’

Wars drive industrial development, people and ideas are exchanged. DNA.
Sad, but not to be understated.
Father’s side stem from a French soldier that stayed, wounded, after the Battle of Austerlitz.

My theory is that as many local men died in the battles, the wounded that survived were taken up by the local population to fill their spots.
 
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Have the Chinese started to make the "Archie" dolls yet?, and if so are they tariff free?

I am a bit puzzled to why the parents of said child are refusing to release the details of the birth certificate, as we know where the child was born, who the parents are, etc, etc, .................
 
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