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Cloak Wearers - Step Forward

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by TeeDee, May 27, 2010.

  1. apj1974

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    It is!

    I agree with you about the length etc. the clergy cloak wouldn't be too practical around a camp fire, its more of a standing around in very cold or windy places type of cloak. I would say that the wool is more than showerproof.

    Also a useful feature on the clergy cloak is a pair of "handles" on the inside front which you can hold it closed with or pass a belt through.

    I remember an old policeman telling me it was a sad day they scrapped the cloak as it meant the copper could no longer stand on street corner with his hands in pockets!
     
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  2. Ogri the trog

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    Arrgghhh and confusion reigned.....

    Mary,
    I really like the idea of a Birrus Britanicus, & I was going to pick your brains at the moot but I'm having trouble visualising these points.....

    A hood deep enough to come within 2" of the front facings.... is that a measurement over the top of your head? and which bit is the "facings"?

    No seam over the top of your head.... Does that mean the seam runs around the hood in a similar line to a collar - or have I got that wrong as well?

    Freeing your arms by throwing the front over the shoulders.... in looking at your photo, you'd either have a whole bundle of fabric around your throat, or you'd have to push the entire front up over your head, while leaving the neckline fastened - not sure I've grasped this idea either.

    Feel free to ignore the queries, as I'm sure it will all become apparent within a few short minutes at the moot - and once I've got it, no doubt I'll fiddle with the idea until I come up with a pattern for me.

    Cheers again

    Ogri the trog
     
  3. Buckshot

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    I understood these (and I may be as wrong as you Pete) as
    Front facings no idea but perhaps the hood should be deep enough to cover the face sticking out a bit.
    Seams - often hoods are made with 2 seams down each side, just above the ear line
    As I understand it, there is a full length split down the front so each half can be thrown independantly over the shoulder

    I'm probably wrong too mind

    Mark
     
  4. treadlightly

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    For those unable to sew on a button without pricking their fingers.......http://ew-trading.com/shop/baggage-trayne-historical-clothing-c-2_46/wool-cloak-p-138


    I have one and it works. It is an army blanket, shaped to fit and with a hood sewn on. It keeps me warm and doubles as a sleep blanket.

    I also have a poncho which, being lighter, is great for the warmer months. Feels great to wear as well.

    The only problem is, you look a bit silly, larpy, Scotiish widows-like in them.
     
  5. Ogri the trog

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    I don't mind having a tinker, but £20 for a cut up army blanket - sheesh!
    Got mine for £4.....
    [​IMG]

    ATB

    Ogri the trog
     
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  6. Buckshot

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    Love the hat pete
     
  7. Harvestman

    Harvestman Bushcrafter through and through

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    Somewhere in my kit cupboard I've got a US Navy cloak/poncho in size extra large. Quite a heavy material, decidedly waterproof, and very comforatble, but the thing I noticed was how warm it was. It trapped so much air around me that it was warmer than any coat I've ever had. Nearly ankle length, too. Hood a bit big, and doesn't stay up in a breeze. Must get that adjusted....

    I once wore it up on a local hillside, and sat reading a book. One of those summer showers came over, so I wrapped up in it, pulled the hood down over my eyes, and waited it out. An hour or so later, still perfectly dry, I was woken up by the dog of the local farmer who had spotted me and come to see if I was ok! Embarassing, but impressive that I could be comfortable enough to fall asleep in it in the rain.

    Its a bit too heavy for most uses nowadays, and doesn't pack particularly small either. I did get some velcro tabs mounted on the front edges so I could seal it up in bad weather. Then it becomes a big dark blue cone with a hood on top. Not stylish at all, but it works.

    Must get it out and see about getting some more use out of it...
     
  8. Harvestman

    Harvestman Bushcrafter through and through

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    Well, I got my cape out, and all i can say is, it is interesting how the memory plays tricks. The thing turns out to be no more than mid calf length, lightweight, packs small, and not as waterproof as I remember! Then again, I haven't worn the thing in over 10 years, and I now remember that I had sprayed it with a proofing spray, which has clearly worn off. I wore it the other night in a heavy downpour whilst walking the dog. Great kit test.

    Brilliant item though. I've put SWMBO on to making a few adjustments to it (I can sew, but she is much better, faster, and neater than me), mainly involving removing the hood, which is inadequate because it doesn't give any protection to the face. I usually wear a Tilley hat anyway. The material can be used to put pockets in it, and adding a few hook and eye loops will give it a better seal when closed. Folded, it will fit in a pouch on my hip, and will make a brilliant summer shower protecter and improvised bivi/basha/windbreak. This is going to become a standard bit of summer kit for me.
     
  9. Asa Samuel

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    My mum made me a cloak a few years ago, not sure if it still fits but I remember wearing it at festivals - never thought to wear it outdoors! It could probably do with some waterproofing though.
     
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    I was only thinking the other day that I should try a wool cloak as an alternative to a blanket
     
  11. Toddy

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    Has anyone sussed out how to access an old thread link on this new forum ?
    Pretty please ?

    M
     
  12. Stew

    Stew Bushcrafter through and through

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    Yesss!
    Blsssings on you :D

    Thanks Stew :cool:
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  14. tombear

    tombear Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)

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    I did a thread about making this a while back but here's my Birrus based on the pattern kindly supplied by Mary, any deviation from that was my own fault!

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    its been treated with lanolin a couple more times since it was made so is slightly darker in colour now. the linings flax linen and the outer is heavy shirt weight pure wool we got cheap from the small mill that's next to the National Wool Museum of Wales. Since it seams i'm a masochist it was completely hand sewn with heavy linen thread.

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    since it was a bit bulky to carry I made a strap to go with, the brass buckles were made from a carboot thick ashtray.

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    Mainly used it for sitting around a fire with the bottom three toggles undone and the tails at the front thrown over the shoulders or for having a nap under with the bottom of the front opening pinned shut with a sharpened twig ( since the bone pin kept getting lost. )

    ATB

    Tom
     
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