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Cheap Greenheat

Discussion in 'Kit Chatter' started by Not Bob, Aug 4, 2004.

  1. Gary

    Gary New Member

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    I wonder if their not shifting old stock, a discontinued line? Be interesting to see if it reappears on the shelves again.
     
  2. rapidboy

    rapidboy Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)

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    I asked today why the price difference between stores ? and the girl on the checkout said they should all be the same but maybe they hadn't changed the price on the shelves.
    Might be worth asking at your local to scan it and see what the till say's ???
    My woman has been burning mine in the fireplace (chimneys blocked off in her apartment :?: ) so i'm buying plenty.
    RB
     
  3. SquirrelBoy

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    Having had a little play with the greenheat,

    I tore one along the dotted line for about 3mm and squeezed a small amount onto a brick. Then lit the gel/sachet with a match. It burned for about 2mins then went out :?:

    I lit a second one but this time squeezed out plenty of juice. Much better burn time 18mins.

    Would a windshield help get a better burn or conserve fuel? How about tearing it open more?

    How do you use yours?
     
  4. rapidboy

    rapidboy Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)

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    I use the lid of an airgun pellet tin with a Hex stove and it works fine but a wind shield would be better.

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    It's more efficient in this home made stove ......

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    ......and i imagine even better in a trangia where the windshield covers the pot as well as the heat source.

    rb
     
  5. Gary

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    You imagine right Rapid, one sachet of green heat will heat up the water in the mug/lid section of the mess kit used with the windshield - this is tested on the stainless set I would imagine the Ali sets are even more conductive and there for better. :super:
     
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    Cheers guys, will have to get testing with the Trangia set from Gary then ! :eek:):
     
  7. Gary

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    Let us know how you get on Nigel - I havent tried the ali set with greenheat so it would be good to know.

    Also one tip - I usually build a small twig base, like a mini temperate fire lay, and place the windshield over this - slice open the sachet, squeeze out a little gel and light this then place on the mug. Gel burns sachet and all and the base means less heat is lost to the ground and thus more heat goes to your mug.

    Simple and effective - try it!
     
  8. hobbitboy

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    Am I right in thinking that thios is the stuff with the WWF logo in one corner and is made from veggie matter?

    I'm confused if it is! Cos i tried it and it was naff, and everyone i spoke with said the same......we've got a load of it sittin in the stockroom at work cos no-one would by it.............
     
  9. Wayne

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    Thats the stuff. i haven't been overly successful with it either.

    I did manage to get 13 boxes from safeway in the end though. so i shall get plenty of practise.
     
  10. Womble

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    I think there are 2 different products being spoken about here. The greenheat stoves (small tins sold in 3s with a burner, medium tins sold in 2s with a burner, and large tin with plastic lid with a stove) aren't the product being talked about here, I think. I'm tempted to try using the contents of the stove tins as a booster for firemaking this weekend (me and Jak in some woodland with another mate (who's on BCUK, but has't posted yet I think).
     
  11. steve a

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    Seems like all the Greenheat has gone from around here, I visited three Safeways and all I could find was a gap on the shelf in the BBQ section.
    They must of had some because the sign said 48p, Sainburys have the large bottle at £1.98 so it might be one of those and a small tin to pour the contents into. Has anyone used the large bottles and if so are they liable to leak ?.
     
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    Could be interesting experiment. Not got much experience with it myself...

    (Taz has posted in the sharpening thread under edged kit.)
     
  13. Gary

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    Greenheat in tins isnt all that - but in the sachets it works like HEXI BLOCKS BUT WITHOUT THE SMELL AND TAR. Like hexi they probably wont be to every ones taste but I think their spot on, and as pointed out as well as a source to heat your brew they can also be used for fire lighting. Not the fastest thing in the world I agree but then 'the craft' isnt about speed either and as I use self heating meals these days I dont need to carry a stove or more spare fuel and all the other baggage that goes without so they suit me down to the ground.

    Just my humble opinion!.
     
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    Aaahhh...I see! Thanks for clearing that up :)
     
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    I cant find the old greenheat thread where I mentioned using the stuff with a swedish mess kit instead of the triangia so I've have to use this one instead.

    As I pointed out then it works well but I was doubtful about it in cold conditions - well I have been running an experiment and the results are good.

    I frozen 6 sachets in the freezer, removing one everyday for a week to see if it deteriated in the cold and am pleased to say they didnt - only problem I had was todays sachet was so iced up the the ice melted and put out the first flame! But once relighted it was ok.

    Top tip I did find was that they worked better after a little rewarm in the pocket, a few seconds from freezer to garden.

    Anyway - not scientific and would be interesting to see if an ambient temperature effected this test but hey it amused me! :nana:
     
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    calorie output and heatwise the greenheat stuff isn't brilliant. you can't et enough of it into an upside-down pepsi can burner to make it worthwhile. it is much nicer than hexy/esbit blocks, from the point of view of leaving all the black scum behind, the greenheat scum is, well, green!

    the big bottles seem pretty robust and unlikely to leak.

    i will have a go with my homemade trangia using a boot polish tin lid as a greenheat holder. using an entire sachet for every brew does seem a little excessive.

    cheers, and.
     
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    Got 13 boxes today at Shore Rd, Belfast. All they had.
    Was in the Downpatrick store yesterday and couldn't find any, but I was in a rush.
     
  18. Les Marshall

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    I may be wrong, but from my air movement days with the brylcream boys, I'm sure that IATA may have something to say about how to move this type of fuel by air. I have not seen the product you are talking about, but there shoul be some sort of indication on it re transport?
     
  19. Saw a few boxes of sachets for 48 pence at Tunbridge Wells Safeways this morning if anyone's interested.
     
  20. Great Pebble

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    Strictly, you shouldn't have anything flammable or explosive in your hold baggage at all. However as I've pointed out to folks at airport security in the past, a Sigg bottle full of meths is in all likelyhood a lot safer than a bottle of duty free brandy... I've never lost any yet.

    There's a few things like that overlooked in the air transport world. For instance, I believe a passenger must to the letter of the law be able to walk something like 300ft. unassisted. Try enforcing that one.
     

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