Bear Grylls- Urban Survivor

[JonathanD]

If people don't like a programme, they certainly have as much right to air their views as people that do. The problem is that he covers ground that we are interested in, so people here are bound to comment one way or the other, that's perfectly natural. His programmes to tend to have extremes of both sides though and polarize opinions dramatically.

 

[johnboy]

If people don't like a programme, they certainly have as much right to air their views as people that do. The problem is that he covers ground that we are interested in, so people here are bound to comment one way or the other, that's perfectly natural. His programmes to tend to have extremes of both sides though and polarize opinions dramatically.

Folk of course have every right to air their views. I'd think you'd have to agree that on the subject of BG folk have exercised that right to the maximum and at every given oppertunity. I think there is little useful to be said on the subject of Man V Wild / Born Survivor that this or 100 threads on a similar vein have not said already. BCUK does not suffer from a lack of opinion on BG does it.

 

[JonathanD]

Folk of course have every right to air their views. I'd think you'd have to agree that on the subject of BG folk have exercised that right to the maximum and at every given oppertunity. I think there is little useful to be said on the subject of Man V Wild / Born Survivor that this or 100 threads on a similar vein have not said already. BCUK does not suffer from a lack of opinion on BG does it.

The threads do tend to drift into the same arguments. Shame, but such is life. Happens when we talk about Ray too.

 

[johnboy]

The threads do tend to drift into the same arguments. Shame, but such is life. Happens when we talk about Ray too.

Ray who??

 

[JonathanD]

Ray who??

You bad man :swordfigh

 

[hog]

After all this, and I'm not a bear Grylls TV watcher, he would be good to have if the place was under invasion and you needed to get away and hide.

 

[Wayland]

After all this, and I'm not a bear Grylls TV watcher, he would be good to have if the place was under invasion and you needed to get away and hide.

He'd be a good man to send ahead to find a minefield that's for certain. . .

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[solvista]

Hi All, I'm new here so bear (excuse the pun) with me. I see there are basically two trains of thought here. One being that BG programs are nought but entertainment, and the other being that his productions are a dangerous sham that could land somebody, anyone daft enough to take him seriously, in trouble one day.

They are both correct in my opinion. I've seen more than a couple of Bears programs, I have watched them purely to giggle at the blatant deceptions and outright scams he employs in every episode. Also, I laugh at how seriously he takes himself, a kind of plum mouthed Steve Irwin style presentation that seeks more self-gratification than truth and education (unlike Steve, annoying as he was).

There is an underlying danger here though. People, some people, may believe some of the stuff he spouts. There are enough dedicated fans of pro-wrestling to tell us that some people will believe just about anything. Children watch him for god's sake. How long before the first headline along the lines of "Child dies in Bear Grills style elevator descent"?

In my opinion he should be stopped, or, told to get real.

 

[JonathanD]

In my opinion he should be stopped, or, told to get real.

No, the makers of the programme should be told this. Bear is just the presenter and has little influence over the show contents or the format in which these shows are presented. The same goes for other 'Discovery Channel' presenters like Austin Stevens et al. These programmes all follow the same Discovery Channel formats of staged action and forced threat of danger, which have been prominent since Steve Irwin hit our screens with such success.

 

[johnboy]

In my opinion he should be stopped, or, told to get real.

No, the makers of the programme should be told this.

The Programme makers are Diverse Bristol contact details below.

DIVERSE BRISTOL LTD.

Embassy House, 5th Floor
Queens Ave
Clifton, Bristol
BS8 1SB

Tel: +44 (0) 117 906 9350
Fax: +44 (0) 117 930 4368

Website http://www.diverse.tv

No email addresses on the webpage ( a sensible move)

Drop em a line and air your concerns let us know how you get on....

Bon chance

 

[Wayland]

No, the makers of the programme should be told this. Bear is just the presenter and has little influence over the show contents or the format in which these shows are presented. The same goes for other 'Discovery Channel' presenters like Austin Stevens et al. These programmes all follow the same Discovery Channel formats of staged action and forced threat of danger, which have been prominent since Steve Irwin hit our screens with such success.

Program makers are always going to seek the lowest common denominator and if that involves shooting for Sun readers then that is what they will do.

To say that Grylls has no choice in the matter is simply wrong. I have been offered money on more than one occasion to get involved in television programs but I have turned most of them down because I did not like the format of the programs. Grylls has the same choice.

The fact that he chooses to present such rubbish either means he has a dangerous lust for celebrity or he is only interested in the money. Either way he he has made his choice and if the result of that choice is our contempt, then so be it.

 

[lisa]

Program makers are always going to seek the lowest common denominator and if that involves shooting for Sun readers then that is what they will do.

To say that Grylls has no choice in the matter is simply wrong. I have been offered money on more than one occasion to get involved in television programs but I have turned most of them down because I did not like the format of the programs. Grylls has the same choice.

The fact that he chooses to present such rubbish either means he has a dangerous lust for celebrity or he is only interested in the money. Either way he he has made his choice and if the result of that choice is our contempt, then so be it.

Well said and same here! I have net Bears producers a few years ago when the press were hounding him, and expressed my opinions about their programs directly enough said:togo:

 

[JonathanD]

Drop em a line and air your concerns let us know how you get on....

Bon chance

II have no concerns, just raising the point that the production company have more responsibility for programme content than Bear himself.

To say that Grylls has no choice in the matter is simply wrong. I have been offered money on more than one occasion to get involved in television programs but I have turned most of them down because I did not like the format of the programs. Grylls has the same choice.

The fact that he chooses to present such rubbish either means he has a dangerous lust for celebrity or he is only interested in the money. Either way he he has made his choice and if the result of that choice is our contempt, then so be it.

Of course he had a choice when he agreed to present the programme, and then again when he signed further contracts, but he is far less responsible for the shows content than the programme makers. Bear made a living with self publicity before Man V Wild and continues to do so. Personally if I was offered Bears job knowing what the show is, I would have a hard time walking away from it. It pays damn well, and you get to travel the world..... sweeet. And you get to jump Rob Bayleys waiting list. I'd just refrain from squealing all the time.... wooooh!! It could also be argued that as his popularity went up, that he did have more input into the show.

Do I like his programmes? well, NO, and less and less as they go on. I'm just playing Devils advocate and trying to present a fairer picture rather that the standard 'Bears an idiot' response.

 

[lisa]

I am not sure that it would be so sweet in reality, but I guess that depends on your personal value system...I'm not judging, I mean that genuinely...we all want/ value different things?

 

[Wayland]

Snip>Do I like his programmes? well, NO, and less and less as they go on. I'm just playing Devils advocate and trying to present a fairer picture rather that the standard 'Bears an idiot' response.

And I'm just calling a spade a spade.

 

[JonathanD]

I am not sure that it would be so sweet in reality, but I guess that depends on your personal value system...I'm not judging, I mean that genuinely...we all want/ value different things?

Nope, I couldn't justify killing animals just for the camera and entertainment value. I wouldn't eat poo or drink my own pee either, probably :bluThinki

The travel and adventure would be something special though.

 

[JonathanD]

And I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Kinda wished I'd done that now, as I suddenly find myself defending a programme I can't stand (or at best am indifferent too) Seperating Bear from his programme is a hard thing to do when for many people that is all they know him for. I've actually met him a couple of times, both before and after his programme came out. I really like him as a person, it's almost like the Bear in his programes is an entirely different person.

 

[lisa]

I have also heard from folks who have met him that he is a great guy...and i am sure he is

 

[ChrisW]

Hi All, I'm new here so bear (excuse the pun) with me. I see there are basically two trains of thought here. One being that BG programs are nought but entertainment, and the other being that his productions are a dangerous sham that could land somebody, anyone daft enough to take him seriously, in trouble one day.

They are both correct in my opinion. I've seen more than a couple of Bears programs, I have watched them purely to giggle at the blatant deceptions and outright scams he employs in every episode. Also, I laugh at how seriously he takes himself, a kind of plum mouthed Steve Irwin style presentation that seeks more self-gratification than truth and education (unlike Steve, annoying as he was).

There is an underlying danger here though. People, some people, may believe some of the stuff he spouts. There are enough dedicated fans of pro-wrestling to tell us that some people will believe just about anything. Children watch him for god's sake. How long before the first headline along the lines of "Child dies in Bear Grills style elevator descent"?

In my opinion he should be stopped, or, told to get real.

And it will take about two seconds for the parents to blame anyone else except themselves or the child.

For God's sake, will people just stop trying to say he's dangerous. He's not. He's perfectly capable of doing the things he does. Not everyone is. If someone tries something he does and gets hurt then it's not his fault, it's theirs. This is not the US. You don't have to sue someone else when something goes wrong, especially if it's your fault.

Nobody ever says Ray Mears is dangerous. If I go and eat a mushroom that's dodgy, can I blame Ray Mears? If I try to start a fire and burn myself can I blame Ray Mears? If I abseil down a waterfall can I blame Bear Grylls? If I go rock climbing and fall can I blame Bear Grylls?

No I can't because I did it. Not Ray or Bear. Me.

 

[IanGilroy_2]

Nobody ever says Ray Mears is dangerous. If I go and eat a mushroom that's dodgy, can I blame Ray Mears? If I try to start a fire and burn myself can I blame Ray Mears? If I abseil down a waterfall can I blame Bear Grylls? If I go rock climbing and fall can I blame Bear Grylls?

No I can't because I did it. Not Ray or Bear. Me

Here here.

You cant legislate for the idiot Monkey see Monkey do.