1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Ancient Trees.

Discussion in 'Other Chatter' started by Wayne, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. Wayne

    Wayne BCUK Welfare Officer
    Mod

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Likes Received:
    305
    Location:
    West Sussex
    paulds, Wayland, Toddy and 1 other person like this.
  2. Toddy

    Toddy Mod
    Mod

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2005
    Messages:
    34,866
    Likes Received:
    1,249
    Location:
    S. Lanarkshire
    Interesting :D Thank you for the link.

    I wonder about Yew trees though, (and some other very long lived trees like oaks) because their core dies off (or is burnt out in Beltane rituals like the one at Fortingall) because there is no longer a 'core' to bore out, there is no dendrochronology beyond the surviving outer layers. How does he deal with that when working out a true age for the tree?

    M
     
  3. Wayne

    Wayne BCUK Welfare Officer
    Mod

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Likes Received:
    305
    Location:
    West Sussex
    I’ll ask him. :)
     
    Toddy likes this.
  4. Stew

    Stew Bushcrafter through and through

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2003
    Messages:
    5,159
    Likes Received:
    302
    Location:
    Aylesbury
    Interesting!

    I've logged some trees on the ancient tree project. I wonder if they get classified younger now!
     
  5. Broch

    Broch Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    2,270
    Likes Received:
    1,530
    Location:
    Mid Wales
    There was a bit in the RFS news a couple of weeks back about this. I have personal experience of it; an 'old' oak on our land was estimated at about 250 years old by its girth but when it was blown over two years ago we found it was only 150 years old - still a lovely tree though :(
     
    #5 Broch, Aug 15, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2019
    paulds likes this.
  6. petrochemicals

    petrochemicals Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2012
    Messages:
    3,401
    Likes Received:
    152
    Location:
    westmidlands
    I Find your friends claims questionable as newtons apple tree is still present and that is 400 years ago. I do know what he means about Yews, I had always thought they replaced there trunks.
     
  7. Janne

    Janne M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,700
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Location:
    Grand Cayman, Norway, Sweden
    Newton’s apple tree might be a myth. Many trees in Europe had famous people ( born, died, relaxed) in their shade, but science show they are much younger.

    Still, I do not think those ‘myths’ about age should be investigated. They are very old, beautiful trees, and should be protected and taken care of!
    It matter not if they are 150 or 1500 years old!
     
  8. Robson Valley

    Robson Valley Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2014
    Messages:
    7,793
    Likes Received:
    1,131
    Location:
    McBride, BC
    A "true age" for any tree is a difficult thing to establish. A good approximation can be derived from the ring count rings per inch.
    Some, aspens and creosote bush, it's a pure estimate in the thousands of years for the colony.
    Pinus aristata = P. longaeva in the mountains of Utah has been cored to 7,500 yrs.

    Do you have a natural fire cycle at all? Here it runs 70-100 years so any old trees are really peculiarities.

    In my avatar, I'm standing in front of slabs of Douglas fir (Pseudotsuga menziesii) of approx 350 years in age.
    The tree had died, the wood was full of rot-pockets everywhere.

    In a rough judgement, I don't think that any of the western red cedar that I carve is more than 400 years old.
     

Share This Page