5 Items Or Less.....

[beenn]

Just remember it's the breeding season for most game. Regardless of what we think of rabbits ect, taking a doe with young kits left in the warren isn't a nice thing to do. especially when it's not a life or death situation. Personally I can't stand the blighters, apart from on my plate and in my stomach but i always allow them some form of peace during the breeding season.. Let's be a traditional English gent' about it. Sportsmen not butchers...

Hope that doesn't step on anybodies toes.

LJ.

Didn't think about that, cheers LJ
I was thinking of a duck but ill give it a miss

 

[Lumber Jack]

This might be helpful to some. It might keep you out of some hot water...

Traps don't discriminate; If you are caught with any form of game in your traps at time of the year you are liable for prosecution. But game keepers have their own way of dealing with situations like this. Usually a good hiding. Fortunately I'm a rather nice keeper and will just collar and keep hold of you until the local bobby arrives.

The only available quarry for you to take with traps or by other methods this time of the year are;

Corvids-Crows, Rooks, Jays ect.
Rabbits.
Mink.
Wood pigeon.
Grey Squirrel.
Brown Rat.
Feral Pigeons.
Collared Doves.

Might be good to add that unless you have permission to trap (the rights to shoot and hunt), you will be breaking the law. Gaining permission for bushcraft doesn't come with shooting or hunting rights. Unless you have the ability to identify and take buck rabbits, which you can do with a high powered telescopic sight and rifle, I'd leave trapping for late August onward.

Just some advice for people to think about.

 

[Lumber Jack]

Didn't think about that, cheers LJ
I was thinking of a duck but ill give it a miss

Eeeeeeek you naughty man!

The duck season doesn't start until September the 1st. THat would land you in some very hot water mate. And that would definitely be a shame. I like this thread a lot and i'm seriously thinking about having a crack at it myself.

LJ.

 

[beenn]

This might be helpful to some. It might keep you out of some hot water...

Traps don't discriminate; If you are caught with any form of game in your traps at time of the year you are liable for prosecution. But game keepers have their own way of dealing with situations like this. Usually a good hiding. Fortunately I'm a rather nice keeper and will just collar and keep hold of you until the local bobby arrives.

The only available quarry for you to take with traps or by other methods this time of the year are;

Corvids-Crows, Rooks, Jays ect.
Rabbits.
Mink.
Wood pigeon.
Grey Squirrel.
Brown Rat.
Feral Pigeons.
Collared Doves.

Might be good to add that unless you have permission to trap (the rights to shoot and hunt), you will be breaking the law. Gaining permission for bushcraft doesn't come with shooting or hunting rights. Unless you have the ability to identify and take buck rabbits, which you can do with a high powered telescopic sight and rifle, I'd leave trapping for late August onward.

Just some advice for people to think about.

Thank you for the advice
I have read up on the law side and also have permission on a fair bit of land to shoot/hunt but dont shoot very often as i only have a cheap gun and i know it kills but wouldnt want to injure but not kill.
Just a question, if you set up a deadfall for wood pigeon and say a duck went for it, would you still be prosecuted?

 

[Lumber Jack]

Thank you for the advice
I have read up on the law side and also have permission on a fair bit of land to shoot/hunt but dont shoot very often as i only have a cheap gun and i know it kills but wouldnt want to injure but not kill.
Just a question, if you set up a deadfall for wood pigeon and say a duck went for it, would you still be prosecuted?

Hello bud,

If you manage to get a wood pigeon into a dead fall, I'd buy you a knife as a prize myself. It's pretty hard, especially at this time of the year. They've got bigger fish to fry so to speak. They're usually out in the maze fields filling up on the fallen seeds. However, anything is possible.

Trapping up a duck: Providing it's male, the keeper would probably pat you on the back. This time of the year they only cause problems for the females by drowning them and such.
Is it illegal-Yes, absolutely and if you're caught by a "by the book" bobbie, he'd have you for it.. But then you have to take into account the shooting laws in this country are very out dated. the law states no taking game on a Sunday. But I know several bobbies who only have a Sunday off, they use it to fill their game freezer.

The best trap to use this time time of the year is one that catches your prey without injury. Think of a large lobster style trap with a triggered door. If you get something that's out of season, you can easily let it go unharmed. Dead falls usually kill or seriously injure. It's more about morals at this point in the season as apposed to legalities. Taking animals that are rearing young or in fact helping to boost the population is considered distasteful.

Alas, my dear fellow the book stops with you. You could always pop to Asda, buy a farm reared Aylesbury, empty a down pillow on it then stick it in a trap. Surely you'd get some points for creativity.

I hopes it's enjoyable whatever you decide, Ben.

Regards,

LJ.

 

[beenn]

Hello bud,

If you manage to get a wood pigeon into a dead fall, I'd buy you a knife as a price myself. It's pretty hard, especially at this time of the year. They've got bigger fish to fry so to speak. They're usually out in the maze fields filling up on the fallen seeds. However, anything is possible.

Trapping up a duck: Providing it's male, the keeper would probably pat you on the back. This time of the year they only cause problems for the females by drowning them and such.
Is it illegal-Yes, absolutely and if you're caught by a "by the book" bobbie, he'd have you for it.. But then you have to take into account the shooting laws in this country are very out dated. the law states no taking game on a Sunday. But I know several bobbies who only have a Sunday off, they use it to fill their game freezer.

The best trap to use this time time of the year is one that catches your prey without injury. Think of a large lobster style trap with a triggered door. If you get something that's out of season, you can easily let it go unharmed. Dead falls usually kill or seriously injure. It's more about morals at this point in the season as apposed to legalities. Taking animals that are rearing young or in fact helping to boost the population is considered distasteful.

Alas, my dear fellow the book stops with you. You could always pop to Asda, buy a farm reared Aylesbury, empty a down pillow on it then stick it in a trap. Surely you'd get some points for creativity.

I hopes it's enjoyable whatever you decide, Ben.

Regards,

LJ.

Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge

I have once got a wood pigeon in a deadfall, and twice a duck. I set up several figure 4's with a large log on top and (touch wood) always killed and never injured.
I also check the traps very often whenever i have used them

To go with the legal side i know im technically breaking the law when i go out with my knife as my only reason is for splitting wood or if i get a fish or some meat

Thanks again, Ben

 

[Lumber Jack]

only reason is for splitting wood

That makes the reason for carrying your knife legal mate. You are allowed to legally carry a knife if you need it for work, religious commitments and or hobbies/personal activities. Providing it's concealed until you get to the area you practice bushcraft. It's completely legal.

LJ.

 

[beenn]

That makes the reason for carrying your knife legal mate. You are allowed to legally carry a knife if you need it for work, religious commitments and or hobbies/personal activities. Providing it's concealed until you get to the area you practice bushcraft. It's completely legal.

LJ.

I always keep any blades in my pack until i arrive to a secluded area
Thanks for your advice yet again- i thought a good reason had to be needed not just for a hobby

 

[Lumber Jack]

No problem, Ben.

I look forward to hearing about your trip. I'll post up my 5 bits of kit later. I'm quite excited now.

Good luck, lad!

LJ.

 

[lannyman8]

i hope we get some pic's sunday night...

who is going out next week or soon????

 

[The Big Lebowski]

I'm tempted to give this a go in a fortnights time

Kit wise. Knife, saw, Tinned meal, Bivi (without sleeping bag) and firesteel.
I would have to put water in a bladder though, as there's none where I am going!

Does a camera count as free then? As I would like to document the night... Al.

 

[lannyman8]

I'm tempted to give this a go in a fortnights time

Kit wise. Knife, saw, Tinned meal, Bivi (without sleeping bag) and firesteel.
I would have to put water in a bladder though, as there's none where I am going!

Does a camera count as free then? As I would like to document the night... Al.

Hi Al, free items are First Aid kit, Water and Bottle/container or bladder Camera to document proof and Daysack to keep your sharps hidden

 

[The Big Lebowski]

Cool

I was going to mention the FAK. I'll do a report when I go out for the night, weekend after next!

atb, al.

 

[lannyman8]

cool look forward to it.......

 

[lannyman8]

no more takers as yet then, come on lads (and lasses), at this rate i will be doing myself another knife for winning my own comp.....

 

[forestwalker]

I have a free day next week, I'll probably go out then. OTOH, just about every night this summer is done with three items; hammock, sleeping bag and ridgerest pad (and a pack to carry them in). But that is just for spending the night, not a proper stay in the woods.

I can't recall; were clothes free, or do I have to go comando in order to save one item?

 

[lannyman8]

a normal days clothes (for a days walk) is free with a jacket or waterproof on top......

look forward to it dude...

my next 1 s 2moz, i have never been to the wood before (at all) so it should be intresting to say the least.....

regards.

chris.

 

[Mikko S]

I have been following this thread...

I don't know if I have time to go this summer, but my list would be:

Victorinox Farmer (knife+saw)
Goretex Bivy
Lighter (if now allowed then firesteel)
Big can of food with ring pull lid
Coffee

Question: Would something like this count as 1 item? Here in Finland you can freely catch fish with hook and worm...

 

[ex-member Raikey]

my next 1 s 2moz, i have never been to the wood before (at all) so it should be intresting to say the least.....

regards.

chris.

i have tho!!!

hahaha

ok i just put my kit together matey,...

i,m taking

1. small gerber axe

there is water down there mate,...

and if the wood is in full bloom braken a plenty , with a mix of birch, alder, and some willow,

i reckon, do a recce of the area see what we can find of use,

pick a good spot (not too far from the water source) and bang up a shelter,...

you mind sharing a shelter?

hahaha

 

[ex-member Raikey]

my idea is,...

i always take the little axe, it sits in a belt pouch and is hidden by even the hem of my fleece,...

so if ever i got caught out down in my woods, id like to think i could rely on my skills,.well ,..the few i have,...hahaha