Unfortunately it's the way all new cars are going, the Euro 5 (copied by many countries inc. Australia) emissions restrictions mean that the manufacturers have to make the engines more complicated to meet the law. The euro 6 restrictions coming in in 2013 will be the death knell for quite a few cars and their engines.
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Unfortunately it's the way all new cars are going, the Euro 5 (copied by many countries inc. Australia) emissions restrictions mean that the manufacturers have to make the engines more complicated to meet the law. The euro 6 restrictions coming in in 2013 will be the death knell for quite a few cars and their engines.
The manufacturers need to build better engines/drive systems, the technology has been out there for years, yet the manufacturers persist with old and cheap to produce junk, with just enough development to keep up with the "outdated before it's released" legislation.`
|Sorry OT I shall stop bleating now.
get a trusty toyota hilux, 3 inch body Lift, 2 inch Sub left, 35 Mickys, abr bull bar, F-B lockers, and couple lightts and your away ^^
They're certainly getting more expensive, but with the current recession now is a good time to buy a "hobby vehicle"
thtas the line i used lol, and i keep going on about it til eventually she said ' oh just shut up and do it then'
so now im on the casual lookout but not till the spring though
No armchair off roading for me.. My Terrano with BFG All Terrains goes off road every day..It pull trailors, horseboxes and gets muddy all the time...
Having had a couple of PAtrols that were great off the black stuff, the Terrano has really surprised my by its agility, and capacity off road. The LCD on the rear axel is very good, ... not as good as a difflock but pretty good nonetheless.
Cheers
Gareth
Having had a couple of PAtrols that were great off the black stuff, the Terrano has really surprised my by its agility, and capacity off road. The LCD on the rear axel is very good, ... not as good as a difflock but pretty good nonetheless.
Cheers
Gareth
To reply to the original question, I have had a few Landies including Defender and Disco (both 300TDi).
Defender = more practical (hose out inside, carries its scars well etc)
Disco = comfort, but still good off road.
Avoid the auto on a Disco 300Tdi, it just robs too much power and leaves you frustrated.
On either model, check the service history rigorously and go over the vehicle carefully or get a professional inspection - the cost could save you lots!
Be prepared for bigger service bills than a 'normal' car and seriously ask yourself if you can stomach 30mpg (at best) when diesel is predicted to reach £1.50 a litre by summer.
I love my Defender 110 hardtop (300Tdi) to bits, but I don't know how much longer I can cope with the fuel cost. Just topped up tonight from quarter tank, nearly £80!!!
Nick
Defender = more practical (hose out inside, carries its scars well etc)
Disco = comfort, but still good off road.
Avoid the auto on a Disco 300Tdi, it just robs too much power and leaves you frustrated.
On either model, check the service history rigorously and go over the vehicle carefully or get a professional inspection - the cost could save you lots!
Be prepared for bigger service bills than a 'normal' car and seriously ask yourself if you can stomach 30mpg (at best) when diesel is predicted to reach £1.50 a litre by summer.
I love my Defender 110 hardtop (300Tdi) to bits, but I don't know how much longer I can cope with the fuel cost. Just topped up tonight from quarter tank, nearly £80!!!
Nick
A lot of armchair offroaders in here.
I did a bit of armchair offroading when i had a range rover , lovely and comfy and a great heater
Craig...............
Bojit,
You beat me to it, except my armchair was a Discovery 3. Now it's a 1994 200TDi Defender 90, (talk about a step change!), not as comfy as the disco, but it sort of suits me better evin if I do miss the heated seats and the CD player!
Dave
You beat me to it, except my armchair was a Discovery 3. Now it's a 1994 200TDi Defender 90, (talk about a step change!), not as comfy as the disco, but it sort of suits me better evin if I do miss the heated seats and the CD player!
Dave
Would you mind telling that to my wife please!
Sounds like you need to do what I do when I need to convice madame manacles that one of my lunatic ideas has validity - "I've carried out extensive internet research dear and everyone says (enter required item: land rover, ka-bar, paramo clothing etc) is the thing to have and now is a particulalry good time to buy" ;-)
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this is my baby 95 toyota hilux ^^ it goes anywhere you cant ^^
note : only got stuck becoz i was on the phone ^^
note : only got stuck becoz i was on the phone ^^
I guess you guys don't have the "pleasure" of salted roads in the winter over there in Aus. I've known more than a few toyota's suffer from salt induced corrosion (and many other makes too!)
Your Hi-lux looks fun. Is that loadbed a standard option over there or is it "homegrown"?
Dave - Very fond of Landrovers, but never to proud to steal a good idea!
Your Hi-lux looks fun. Is that loadbed a standard option over there or is it "homegrown"?
Dave - Very fond of Landrovers, but never to proud to steal a good idea!
nah here it doesnt get that cold that the road need to salted, but befor i bought it the last owner rolled it on it side so there small top rust but never to bag yet ^^
i had 3 toyotas, now a 84, 87 toyota 4runner but my 95 is good but need new front and back leafs, it one of hilux fails the leafs bend down atfer years and years
well this toyota im not gonna custom like my last coz it goes good off road and run great how it is but soon gonna need new leafs maby a clutch, but i did custom the tray ^^
If you are buying with your heart, go for a Defender. It will put a smile on your face. If you are buying with your head, go for a disco. Comfier, almost as good offroad and a lot more vehicle for your money.
There are a lot of more intelligent options than a Defender, especially as a daily driver, but I use mine every day and I wouldn't part with it for the world. Our other car is a BMW Mini Cooper S, which I almost never drive. I would far rather be in my Defender, it doesnt do 0-60 in 7 seconds and it doesnt corner like it's on rails, it doesnt have built-in sat nav, aircon or heated seats, but none of that seems to matter.
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