Hobo fishing????

[abominable_scouse_monster]

I go back to "too little land, too many people" . I'm not sure, from a morality point of view, that dynamiting fish is worse than catch and release? One is to feed ones family, one is not. Now, if the fish are being stolen from another persons land, thats theft and is plain wrong. If its their pond though? In my head your land = your business.

Well think of it from a conservation point of view if you are feeding your family with everything from your lake you will eventualy run out of the bigger fish if you kill all the smaller fish my problem with explosive (and poison fishing) is it's indiscriminate in it's results. It's effective unquestionably but rappidly becomes too effective and does not allow the environment and stocks to replenish if over used.

Realy? couldn't find any legislation could you provide some

Various paching laws and a few fish and fisheries ones. Spear gun fishing is allowed but only just a man driven spear used while wading is definitely covered under a poaching law.

I think in the case ASM was referenceing the "damage" was as much, or more, to the reef itself as to the fish taken.

This as well, I would rather enjoy longer lasting fish stocks than a quicker result with no lasting reward (poor wording sorry). And if you kill the environment off the fish just wont come back.

 

[Corso]

Various paching laws and a few fish and fisheries ones. Spear gun fishing is allowed but only just a man driven spear used while wading is definitely covered under a poaching law.

does that apply to sea fishing though - I was under the impression both were legal and can find nothing in the legislation that says otherwise?

 

[santaman2000]

Well think of it from a conservation point of view if you are feeding your family with everything from your lake you will eventualy run out of the bigger fish if you kill all the smaller fish my problem with explosive (and poison fishing) is it's indiscriminate in it's results. It's effective unquestionably but rappidly becomes too effective and does not allow the environment and stocks to replenish if over used.......

But under the circumstances BR specified (your own land/pond/lake) those fish are just like any other crop or livestock. You harvest them, repair and prepare the land/pond/lake for the next crop, and restock. That's common practice here; indeed it's exactly the way the various State Agricultural Departments teach and recommend. In fact the ponds and lakes owned and ran by the State for public use are drained and maintained in a similar fashion every 10 years or so. It's just good resource management.

 

[knifefan]

In the uk - even if you own the lake or river you still require a rod licence to fish it!! Also a licence to add or remove fish from or to other waters. However you can take and eat fish you catch.
As far as I'm aware all freshwater fish are edible....but some taste a lot better than others

 

[Humpback]

Rod licence is not required in Scotland I belief has the law changed?

 

[abominable_scouse_monster]

does that apply to sea fishing though - I was under the impression both were legal and can find nothing in the legislation that says otherwise?

From what i can find Section 11 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 as amended by Schedule 12 of the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 prohibits the use of a bow to kill or capture a fish.

But under the circumstances BR specified (your own land/pond/lake) those fish are just like any other crop or livestock. You harvest them, repair and prepare the land/pond/lake for the next crop, and restock. That's common practice here; indeed it's exactly the way the various State Agricultural Departments teach and recommend. In fact the ponds and lakes owned and ran by the State for public use are drained and maintained in a similar fashion every 10 years or so. It's just good resource management.

Unless it's a commercial fisherie in the UK you don't see any one doing anything to a pond or lake sad I know but last time I saw a lake drained was a Park by my house and that was so the council could sell a large number of the fish to a commercial fisheries company.

In the uk - even if you own the lake or river you still require a rod licence to fish it!! Also a licence to add or remove fish from or to other waters. However you can take and eat fish you catch.
As far as I'm aware all freshwater fish are edible....but some taste a lot better than others

To fish it with a rod and line yes, to take fish from it no license is required just permission from the land owner.

Rod licence is not required in Scotland I belief has the law changed?

Nope no licence need in scotland is needed from the EA. But you might need one from the land owner etc but I feel that's a fiar trade off as the EA are more than a little useless.

 

[ol smokey]

Rod license is not required in Scotland, but a rod must be used if not fishing for coarse fish, laying douwn your rod
with the bait in the water is not allowed as this is considered a set line, which is illegal if fishing for trout or salmon
in Scotland.

 

[wingstoo]

Realy? couldn't find any legislation could you provide some

Contact MAFF or the Environment Agency and ask them. That's what I did in relation to Speed hooks and Yo-Yo reels.

A very quick google search came up with this... http://www.archeryinterchange.com/f16/bow-fishing-26857/

I Asked British environment agencies last September and its a firm no:

"Thank you for your enquiry about using a bow and arrow to catch fish.

Our fisheries specialist has advised the use of a bow and arrow to catch fish in England and Wales would be illegal. The bow and arrow would be classed as an illegal instrument under Part 1 Section 1 of the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act 1975 ( since incorporated into subsequent Acts). Please read the extract from section 1 below.

Section 1.
Prohibited implements.
(1) Subject to subsection (4) below, no person shall—
(a)
use any of the following instruments, that is to say—
(i) a firearm within the meaning of the Firearms Act 1968;
(ii) an otter lath or jack, wire or snare;
(iii) a crossline or setline;
(iv) a spear, gaff, stroke-haul, snatch or other like instrument;
(v) a light;
for the purpose of taking or killing salmon, trout or freshwater fish;
(b) have in his possession any instrument mentioned in paragraph (a) above intending to use it to take or kill salmon, trout or freshwater fish; or
(c) throw or discharge any stone or other missile for the purpose of taking or killing, or facilitating the taking or killing of any salmon, trout or freshwater fish."

To read Section 1 in full please follow the link below:

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...&filesize=5719

You may be intersted in visiting the fishing section on our website. There is useful information on how to obtain a rod licence, fishing byelaws, where to fish and fisheries publications.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...g/default.aspx
"

 

[Corso]

ned to re-read but can still not see anything that rules out using these implements in the sea

 

[Quixoticgeek]

ned to re-read but can still not see anything that rules out using these implements in the sea

I'm pretty sure that in the sea anything goes. Do double check and don't take my word for it, but you certainly have more lee way in the sea than on land.

Julia

 

[wingstoo]

In the sea is a slightly different take on things, but there are regs on using gill nets and some other equipment as I learnt through here last year.

Inland waterways and tidal waters and coastal as well as off coast have all kinds of different rules and regulations.

I hadn't seen in the post I initially replied to the "Sea" element of the question. Maybe I missed it and should have a re-read.

"IN" the UK... lots of sea "Around" the UK

 

[Corso]

post #6 asked the question

since then noone has answered

My guess is the rod requirement is to prevent things like jug fishing and trot lines?

How about bow fishing and spear fishing? Salt water only?

'in' is somantics

the UK has territorial waters

 

[wingstoo]

post #6 asked the question

since then noone has answered



'in' is somantics

the UK has territorial waters

Ah, but there were two questions mrostov asked. I got to answer one of them, the first one

Please note the in the post I made about "IN, or Around...

 

[mrostov]

<chuckle>

Love rednecks

The British have their own rednecks. They are normally referred to as 'Australians'.

 

[forest_dweller]

not in scotland one doesnt need a rod license. still in the Uk im sure we are lol - for now!