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Dave

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Sep 17, 2003
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Brigantia
[Or European Union!]

Would you move to, to live the perfect homesteading lifestyle?

a.] Has the cheapest arable Land, and forest, to purchase?
b.] Is likely to remain politically stable?
c.] Has 'first world' state funded medical facilities? [Such as the NHS.]
d.] Has a good school system.
e.] Does not have a history of corrupt local government, and police.
f.] Has an effective democratic central government.
g.] Has a low murder rate
h.] Readily accepts Brits and most people speak english.
i.] Has cheap return flights to Britain.

The list above is in order of importance.
 

Dave

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Sounds too good to be true, IF a place like it exists it's got to be the best kept secret

Ok, which countries tick which boxes?

For me it would probably be the Coromandel peninsula in New Zealand.

Given the first priority was cheap land, I'm afraid Id have to discount that beautiful looking place. [Course I'd love to live there...:)]
 
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Dave

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What about places like Romania, Bulgaria, and dreams of buying acres of forest, hunting rights, and a farmhouse, for twenty thousand euros?

Or are they just pipe dreams?
 
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Goatboy

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[Or European Union!]

Would you move to, to live the perfect homesteading lifestyle?

a.] Has the cheapest arable Land, and forest, to purchase?
b.] Is likely to remain politically stable?
c.] Has 'first world' state funded medical facilities? [Such as the NHS.]
d.] Has a good school system.
e.] Does not have a history of corrupt local government, and police.
f.] Has an effective democratic central government.
g.] Has a low murder rate
h.] Readily accepts Brits and most people speak english.
i.] Has cheap return flights to Britain.

The list above is in order of importance.

I think unfortunately that A) could cancel out a lot of the others. Northern UK and parts of the Nordic region for most of them (bar Scotlands murder rate). You thought about the Scottish islands? Not many trees to play in though. Some of the Eastern European states look good. Some folk I knew who moved to Poland & Romania are having a great time and have totally fallen in love with it.

Sent via smoke-signal from a woodland in Scotland.
 

Dave

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Brigantia
Can I suggest Ireland or France.

France http://www.jbfrenchhouses.co.uk/jbp/limousin/salveur/salveurjb832/50173

http://www.jbfrenchhouses.co.uk/jbp/limousin/salveur/salveurjb529/50007

Romania , Bulgaria cheap land but not too sure about #C , #D , #E ?

Got any links like those French ones, in Ireland TD? I think Irelands CGT free isnt it?

I dont know about C,D and E either..?

I think unfortunately that A) could cancel out a lot of the others. Northern UK and parts of the Nordic region for most of them (bar Scotlands murder rate). You thought about the Scottish islands? Not many trees to play in though. Some of the Eastern European states look good. Some folk I knew who moved to Poland & Romania are having a great time and have totally fallen in love with it.

I was wondering about Poland as well Goatboy, considering the forest which spills over from Belarus.
Im not sure the scottish islands are any cheaper than the mainland are they? Got any examples?

I know you can get cheap houses in Arctic Sweden. £25kish.
The subsistence lifestyles we see portrayed on the TV, such as the ones starring people like Heimo, in Alaska, seem infinitely more attractive than the 9-5 grind here.
Where you go out in the fall, to bag a moose and a caribou, and have meat for the entire year. Im not sure how realistic or cheap that would be in Sweden though.
 
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TeeDee

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Got any links like those French ones, in Ireland TD? I think Irelands CGT free isnt it?

I'd suggest having a word with Badger simply because he has moved to Ireland recently after finding somewhere that needed some work and has a bot of land.
or you can look here http://www.daft.ie/

I haven't come across an Irish website that deals JUST with small holdings but there are LOTS of potential doer-uppers over there. It certainly ticks a lot of boxes in my mind.

Or look here and use the search filters http://www.greenshifters.co.uk/




hth
 
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santaman2000

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Canada most likely fits your needs. However it's BIG. For requirement g stop thinking in terms of the entire nation and start thinking of individual locations (also true for requirement a and others)

The cost is actually usually influence by the others factors; the cheaper the land, the further you'll be from services. Add to that the fact that another service (fire department) will also be further so while the price of the land goes down, the price of homeowners' insurance goes up.

All that said, part of the point of homesteading is lessened dependence on said services.
 
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milius2

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Jun 8, 2009
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Lithuania
You have to visit Lithuania then ;)
Good and affordable medicine, very good school system and a lot of people working abroad, which means cheap house and land (still) and a lot of properties in woods while still being not too far from some small towns.... but you'll have to learn local language or find some friends like me :D :D
 
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Germany.

Land pricing will be high when compared to other countries, but you can be fairly certain the state won't nick it off you for some random reason. Also, infrastructure, I have recently driven back and forth across Germany and a huge amount of money is being put into civil infrastructure projects, roads, bridges etc. All new houses have to be very energy efficient etc.

What about places like Romania, Bulgaria, and dreams of buying acres of forest, hunting rights, and a farmhouse, for twenty thousand euros?

The land might be cheap, but you'll find life more expensive in other ways, also corruption, the Romanians have been making some effort to stamp it out but places like Bulgaria and Hungary will bury you in red tape and expect frequent back handers for some quite surprising things.

I spent a few months travelling in Poland when I was a lad and loved the place, I wouldn't want to live there though.

The Czech Republic might be an option, but I read that they have some corruption issues too.

Happy house hunting. :)
 

John Fenna

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Orkney - if I was younger and fitter, could cope with long, dark winters and a lack of trees I would go myself!
Prices are low for most properties and all else is pretty much like the rest of the UK....
Kirkwall Hospital did me proud, the schools are excellent and the people very friendly ... and they voted against Scottish Independence!:)
 

TeeDee

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I think criteria #H must place higher in the order of likely success.
I may or may not like the idea of moving to America and buying a Homestead but does America like the idea of giving me a Green Card??
 

Stevie777

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Orkney - if I was younger and fitter, could cope with long, dark winters and a lack of trees I would go myself!
Prices are low for most properties and all else is pretty much like the rest of the UK....
Kirkwall Hospital did me proud, the schools are excellent and the people very friendly ... and they voted against Scottish Independence!:)
Naw, They voted to remain under Westminsters yoke.
 

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