Smock or Anorak....What's the difference?

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directdrive

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Hi, All: The other day, I posted a query regarding smocks. I've been looking for one but didn't want to break the bank on one made of ventile. Now however, I think I may have been using the wrong word. What is the difference between a smock and an anorak? What I'm calling a smock is what Ray Mears calls an anorak (see the Tahr anorak on Ray's website). If that is an anorak, what is a smock? :confused:
Appreciate any and all edification!

Ignorantly Yours......Bruce :lmao:
 

Hjaltlander

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I just had a quick look at Ray's website, and I would have said that was a smock, as it's a pull over the head type of thingie, although i dare say i will be corrected very shortly...

Hjaltlander
 
G

gwing

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Not that I'm an expert on garments but I believe:

An Anorak is an Eskimo style top i.e. Pullover coat with hood, no zip on front and would have ben made from furs.

A smock is also a pullover design but specifically the body is just a simple folded rectangle rather than a fitted coat. Traditionally they would have long sleeves and no hood and be made from canvas.

Although these are I think the traditional meanings marketing folks in clothing departments give these names to all sorts of things so there will be exceptions.

Rob.
 

addyb

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I don't there's much of a difference between the two, basically the same thing. Sometimes an anorak will have a half-zipped opening, but sometimes a smock does too. I call my Ventile jacket an anorak because that's what I was told it was when it was given to me regardless of the fact that it has a full zip front.

Adam
 

spamel

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I picked up a few swedish snow smocks, and they are pull over the head types with a few buttons to do up the neck. Very good, very cheap if you shop about and can be dyed to the colour of your choice.

Saying that, I own several Arctic Windproof smocks, they have a full front zip!! :confused:

So, in short, I have no idea!!
 

spamel

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I got mine fro america, believe it or not!! They cost me about five quid each, postage cost more than the smocks themselves!! I'll go and have a look at the name of the seller, I think it was something like vikingmil, but I'll go and check.
 

JonnyP

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I thought an anorak was someone who stood at the end of a platform, ticking off the trains, as they go past......Why do they do that......???
 

big_swede

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Anorak = A pullover kind of jacket, derived from the inuit.

Smock = "A coatlike outer garment, often worn to protect the clothes" taken from wikipedia.
 

TheGreenMan

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directdrive said:
...Appreciate any and all edification!...

Hello DD,

I’m going to interpret the above literally!

At the risk of becoming ‘anoraky’:

I understand that a smock is a windproof (Possibly water repellent/waterproof also), hooded, unlined jacket, of a military type (Like a combat jacket with a hood).

A parka is a windproof (Again, may or may not be water repellent/waterproof) hooded jacket with a warm lining (Which may be integral or removable), again, usually of a military type, which may be worn over a combat jacket or smock, and usually longer in length than a smock.

However, parka and anorak appear to be interchangeable terms when used in reference to non-military garments (Note that these below, are unlined):

http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/arcticanorak.htm
http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/permafrostparka.htm

The Swazi Tahr is untypical in the sense that it uses the word ‘anorak’ to describe an unlined garment of longer than usual length.

If you are interested in buying something like the triple layer Gortex®, unlined, Tahr, I think you’re going to struggle to find a garment of the same length, or at a lower price.

I have seen British Army ‘gortex’ for sale at very reasonable prices (I believe they are made from a generic type of ‘gortex’ (GTX?) rather than the Trademarked fabric, and I have only seen them in camouflage). Bizarrely, they are meant to be worn under a smock <belly laughs>!

I read a somewhat heated and funny thread on an army forum where there was much confusion and dispute as to whether the ‘gortex’ should be worn ‘over’ or ‘under’.

If I extracted the correct understanding from the many pages of the thread, the ‘gortex’ should be worn under the smock (Which is counter-intuitive) as ‘gortex’ (And the Trademarked type) have an Infrared ‘signature’ which can be easily observed with Infrared optics (All current British Army outer-layer fabrics, including those used for burgens etc, are treated with a chemical that helps suppress the Infrared ‘signature’).

Also, I understand that the army specify that a ‘gortex’ garment should not be worn when on a patrol, or when in close proximity to 'the enemy’ – apparently the current army ‘gortex’ is noisy.

The picture below, would typify what I would describe as a military smock (The only green, non-Ventile, one I know of - it’s not waterproof) - $189 US (The Zoot Suit, Gortex® Stash-Away Smock Liner, and Ottawa Jacket are worth a look, in the Foul Weather section):
http://www.sasskit.co.uk/
pesassmocks.jpg


British Army ‘gortex’ (GTX) Note: no pockets, for wearing under a cotton smock - $112 US:
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/military/index.asp
S95IssueGTXJacket.jpg


Non-Issue British Army Gortex Combat Jacket (I understand this type of jacket will be adopted with the next iteration of British Army Issue kit) Also, I understand this is very high quality - $393 US:
http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=54_39&products_id=91

Non-military Parka - $1744 US:
http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=184

This spec for Gor-Tex® is hard to beat, so is the price for full-length protection (Available in Olive Drab, and on your side of ‘the pond’) - $249.99:
http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=5311&TabID=1&CatID=45


I hope I have helped to make things a little clearer for you (I doubt it :) ), and that this isn’t more than you needed to know <chuckle>


Best regards,
Paul.
 

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