Apocalypto

[Porcupine]

food for thought, all we know from history is hearsay

personal opinion is if i want facts i watch a documentary, if i want to be entertained i watch a movie

 

[Wayne]

The problem with accepting Hollywood is just fiction is that a vast number of people take their historical perspective from the movies.

Yes people on here question debate and watch movies with a view that fact and fiction areseperate. Many do not. My wife is a film buff and a historian and I have to sit through constant verbose on the message behind the film etc etc.

 

[gregorach]

The problem with accepting Hollywood is just fiction is that a vast number of people take their historical perspective from the movies.

Yes indeed! And it really doesn't help when some idiot erects a statue of Mel Gibson in "Braveheart" costume and calls it a monument to Wallace.

I could maybe let it go if it weren't for that statue...

 

[Womble]

That one by the monument at Sterling? I know what you mean...

 

[falling rain]

That one by the monument at Sterling? I know what you mean...

Blimey womble who rattled your cage are you out of hibernation now.? It's still january you know!! global warming an all.............go back to sleep mate and we'll see you in the spring

 

[Womble]

oooh cheers: I need the kip....

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

 

[falling rain]

Just kidding of course Wom. Nice to see you on here again old friend.

 

[EdS]

William Wallace that would be him of Welsh descent, who started out by fighting other Scots to settle the Bruce via Balliol throne fight.

Oh and had the nice habit of flaying foes to make belts out of their skin.

 

[Wayland]

The problem with accepting Hollywood is just fiction is that a vast number of people take their historical perspective from the movies.

Yes people on here question debate and watch movies with a view that fact and fiction areseperate. Many do not. My wife is a film buff and a historian and I have to sit through constant verbose on the message behind the film etc etc.

There is an old saying that "History is written by the victorious".

One mans history is another mans propaganda. I work with history all the time and I notice when it gets re-written to fit the latest fashionable opinion.

One day the Vikings are blood thirsty raiders the next day they are peace loving farmers.

The truth is they were perhaps both or neither of these. Our perception of history varies almost daily. Hollywood is one influence of course but so is our own moral standpoint.

I grumble constantly about Hollywood not getting it right but I can also understand that a movie will fit someone elses point of view perfectly.

It's easy to say that "My view is the correct one and theirs is not." but which version of history do I base that assumption on?

Some "facts" are undisputable, many others are at best shaky

Watch the film if you like, miss it if you prefer but don't get too wound up about the accuracy of movie land, if you put ten archaeologists and historians in a room together they'll come out with 15 different theories for the same thing.

 

[Spikey DaPikey]

Is this the right room for an argument ??

 

[dommyracer]

As far as I am concerned he is entitled to say,think and have an opinion of his own as are everyone else,god I am sick and tired of all this PC crap!

Yes, he is, and nobody has said he isn't.

However, you can't honestly expect someone to say "******* Jews. The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," and get away with it scot free.

It has nothing to do with "political correctness"

God am I sick of people misusing the term "political correctness" to excuse racism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness


Back on topic though (kinda), the movie looks like it could be fun. The hhhistorical innaccuracy thing does suck though, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

 

[CLEM]

Yes, he is, and nobody has said he isn't.

However, you can't honestly expect someone to say "******* Jews. The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," and get away with it scot free.

It has nothing to do with "political correctness"

God am I sick of people misusing the term "political correctness" to excuse racism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness


Back on topic though (kinda), the movie looks like it could be fun. The hhhistorical innaccuracy thing does suck though, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

Why ever not???,does everyone HAVE to subscribe to YOUR views??? Personally I am sick to death of the facist left bullies putting labels on folks who happen to be able to think for themselves,they preach tolerance but do not show any to those that disagree with them themselves!

 

[Spikey DaPikey]

** pulls up a log to watch the arguments **

anyone ?

 

[Simon E]

If you are looking for really accurate historical movies, I can only suggest

 

[Lithril]

I took my son to see Apocalypto yesterday http://apocalypto.movies.go.com/ and it was excellent. Nothing particularlly to learn as far as bushcraft goes but good costumes and fast action. Just thought I'd recommend it if you're after something to do at the weekend.
I went to the British museum last year and there was a Polynesian exhibition there. A lot of the costumes and weapons in the film were very similar to the artefacts at the museum. Especially I noticed the war clubs were the same or very similar. Anyway great film if you're into the cinema.

Cheers Nick, I was debating whether to go and see that. Not fussed on accuracy, I spend most of my life having to be accurate, its nice to go and watch something, switch brain off (doesn't take long) and just enjoy it.

Matt

 

[Marts]

** pulls up a log to watch the arguments **

anyone ?

You gonna share that popcorn?

 

[Spikey DaPikey]

You gonna share that popcorn?

Sure, dig in

 

[Templar]

HI all,
long time no see....
I have seen Apocalypto twice now and really enjoyed it, Great entertainment...
I'm not interested in it historical value, if I want to learn history I will read "Several" text books on the subject and the make up my mind as to what ist my perseption of the truth... You see History is one of my favorite subjects to read about.

And as Politics and Religion are Two subjects that a gentalman never discusses in polite company I wont enter into the fray.

Cheers all

Oh! and Spikey, pass me some of that Popcorn....

Karl