Feedback on the 2008 BushMoot

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Tony

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Keep the thoughts coming :D

We made a wasp trap out of a bottle and it made a big difference ;)

We did have a parking bod with a hi vis vest :) Unless we have one there all the time people will have to use some common sense....I know, I know, sometimes it's misslaid :lmao:

Thanks for all this feedback :You_Rock_
 

ptr10001

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Oct 22, 2007
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Hi

I came in on a day pass which cost £20.

I enjoyed the day, and thought it excellent and would come again.

However, I did not stay overnight, and there was no way of differentiating between camping overnight and just coming in and out in the day.

If I had stayed the night and came in at 8 am the day I attended I would probably have got a day and a half for £20 which would have been great value. But coming in say at 10 and leaving at 5 £20 does not seem such great value.

Perhaps a scaled pricing might work better and encourage more people in for the day which would be good because more "casual" attendees might come and learn about Bushcraft etc which in my opinion would be a really good thing as in part it is about helping to educate others.

I thought Mors was fantastic and really enjoyed listening to him.

In conclusion, I hope it does not come across that I am complaining about the price as I am not, I am happy to pay to attend, just perhaps it would be better to differntiate between coming in for a day and camping.

Thanks for all the organisation and effort that went into organising it.
 

rich59

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Is there anything we can do about wasps?


I used to get quite wound up by wasps. Since then I have learned a lot about them and how to manage them better. The key thing is to take an interest in them, recognise they are hunting food (not trying to attack me) and will soon go away if they find none. A gentle shooing rather than aggressive strike at them is usually more effective if they seem persistent. I think that the reason why they are so common is that they feed on the nectar of the abundant Hymalayan Balsam. The biggest problems seem to be when they get into clothing.

Here are some useful quotes:-

Should a bee or wasp fly near you, slowly raise your arms to protect your face and stand still or move slowly away through bushes or indoors to escape. Never move rapidly, which often provokes attack. Never strike or swing at a wasp or bee against your body since it may be trapped causing it to sting. If crushed, it could incite nearby yellowjackets into a frenzied attack. The wasp venom contains a chemical "alarm pheromone," released into the air, signaling guard wasps to come and sting whomever and whatever gets in their way.

Since perfume, hair spray, hair tonic, suntan lotion, aftershave lotions, heavy-scented shampoos, soaps and many other cosmetics attract insects, they should be avoided. Avoid shiny buckles and jewelry. Wear a hat and closed shoes (not sandals). Don't wear bright, colored, loose-fitting clothing, which may attract and trap insects. Flowery prints and black especially attract insects.

There is an native trick that works great for repelling yellow jackets. Get a small paper lunch bag and fill it with a crumpled piece of paper so it keeps it's shape. Tie a string to it and hang it from a corner of your house or tree where you want to work. Wasps are territorial and visual in nature, they mistake the paper bag for another nest and will stay away.
 

crazydave

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my beer can trap was two inches of beer and it was half full by the time I emptied it out.

I was joking with the owner that he should stick alcohol vending machines on site but once the kitchen is finished a simple cafe might be doable or a brew surcharge of a quid or two for a tea urn constantly on the go. £150 buys a lot of tea and coffee. maybe a 1 choice lunch stall so a simple meal of cheeseburger, curry in a bun, chilli etc.. with a brew on so it doesn't have to be run all the time.

Seeing as most of the participants were single males or couples. I'd be happy enough to do a day or two's duty as it couldnt be any worse than a scout camp. you could even set a rota up for different meals and practically self cater which would also add to the friendly feel and get people interacting even more. I think those doing the courses would appreciate a staff canteen if nothing else.

I went and got more milk from the garage and was lucky to get a frozen 2 pint bottle which was wierd but made it last an extra day there were some food issues I noticed with those who came on the train like the two london girls maybe a who's off to the supermarket notice on the board so people can go along to get what they need.

just out of interest is there a proper local shop nearby? I didn't go exploring and was only familiar with the tesco/lidl location. I used to liase with the local shop keepers for a fresh ration run as you got decent bacon and burgers for a start. :)
 

Ahjno

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For what my 2p maybe worth:

If there are any chances made for the better, I fully hope they don't mean more tasks for the Mootly Crew. I was pitched there and saw what these guys did behind the screens. They all must shrunk 4 inch from all the walking they did to sort all things that sticked their heads up. And I'm not even talking about the otherhalves of some of the guys who helped out where ever they could: Shelly, Cindy and Sam to name but a few.

New ideas are good, but IMO shouldn't add more work on these guys shoulders. In the end though, decission is up to thou Boss ;)
 

firecrest

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Cheers for that rich59 Perhaps the solution then is that we go on a himalayan balsam weeding mission and uproot some swaiths of it after they have stopped flowering (dont want to upset the ecosystem) they shouldnt be there anyway, damn plant is taking over everywhere!
 

Andyre

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What can i say, brilliant.
I only stayed for the friday night and had to leave by 5pm on the saturday but was so impressed by what i took part in that i will definately be there next year and next year the boss can go whistle i am not going to cut short the Moot to go to work.

Can i say thanks to Tony and the Mootley crew, a brilliant job in organising and running the Moot.:You_Rock_
 

andy_e

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... Don't wear bright, colored, loose-fitting clothing, which may attract and trap insects. Flowery prints and black especially attract insects...

Interestingly enough, I noticed that as soon as I changed into my light tan/beige trousers the wasps were buzzing around my ankles and the two people that I know of that got stung were wearing the same colour.

Back on topic, I raised one suggestion for the next moot with Tony when he visited Scots Corner. As this was my first Moot and I hadn't met most of the folks there I sometimes found it difficult to know who was taking workshops and courses and thought it might be useful to have a mugshot board of people who'd agreed to run courses so we'd know who was who.
 
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Hi Tony/All

Just wanted to say many thanks for another fantastic Moot. Well Done!

I think that most of the useful feedback has already been highlighted. If the event is to last longer then can I suggest that the workshops are spread out more e.g. some free afternoons and mornings. This will give the those leading workshops a break too and the likelihood of everyone getting round to do all they want.

Mors was as usual absolutely fantastic and for those of you who were present for the famous shelter building 'anecdote', I managed to record that golden moment on video! PM me for a copy!

Cheers

Ady (Mendip Man)
 

nomade

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I posted a Big Thank You on another Moot 2008 thread (I can't find it on this one so it must be on one of the other feedback threads). But I didn't give any names so here I would like to name Tony and Shelly, Mors, John and Val and Will Lord for their hard work, their outstanding expertise and their warmth, attention to others and kindness.

Also a Big Thank You to all of you involved in the logistics of making it happen!

As for sugggestions for next year, some people have mentioned the sale of foods at reception.This year I had deliberately not brought
any food or cooking tools in order to keep luggage weight minimal (coming by train and recovering from sciatica). I had planned to find lifts to Tesco once at the Moot. Well once I was there I found daunting the prospect of asking around for a lift and spending time shopping at Tesco. Fortunately Moot magic operated and I didn't have to: Shelly had some soups left at the shop, and I found
hospitality around camp fires. As it turned out, my logistic problems had been a blessing in disguise as I got more contacts and experienced more togetherness at the Moot than if I had arrived with a car and cooking tools.

But as Tony invites us to suggest ideas for next year, I would suggest that more and a wider range of foods could be available at the Moot for people who don't have the freedom and peace of mind of a vehicle.

It seems to me there were more people arriving by public transport back at Moot 2005 than there were this year. Are we becoming a tiny tiny minority?
 

spamel

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Tony has a magic board, he'll even put a message up for you if it is really important and you ask him nicely! :) If you need a lift, ask him to put a message up, or better still, if somebody is going down town then they could get a message up with a rough time to when they are going and how many people they can offer a lift to. It's not as if you'll be going at the drop of a hat, you'll know in advance that you need to go into town this evening for more eggs, milk, etc so can give folk a heads up.

I would have taken folk down most any evening, a short trip like that is nothing and I'd expect nothing in return except a simple thankyou and a bottle of stags' breath! :D
 

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