Tree species

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Janne

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Sorbus.
Rowan is my guess.

Wait until fall. Red berries in bunches? Then Rowan!

Hardwoods = have leaves.
Christmas tree = not hardwood. Softwood. No leaves, only needles.
Some grow plastic needles on metal wire branches, those are a new species.
 

Robson Valley

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Gymnosperms might have tiny scale like leaves, such as all the cedars.

Conifers have needle-shaped leaves.
Those are singles or in bundles of 2, 3 or 5.
10+ is Larix/larch, yellow in the autumn and deciduous.
Like the Siberian larch forests of the Kabarovsk Krai.

First one = Rowan. S. aucuparia. Both the the leaf anatomy and stem colors are a give-away.
Even the 2 wild mountain species here look like those. S. scopulina & S. sitchensis.
Long ago, I had all 3 growing in my garden.

Second one? hardwood but no better than that.
I don't recognize those compound leaves.
All the wrong sizes and shapes for what 80+ species I know from here.
 

Janne

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An earlier poster wanted hard wood for smoking.

Try the various conifers for smoking. Nice too, specially Juniper.

Juniper is used traditionally in Sweden to smoke fish.
The berries are used in the Gravad Lax marinade.
 

Robson Valley

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Smoke woods are fruit woods here.
Sure, Rowan produces fruit so it might be OK. I won't ruin a dinner party to find out.

Others: Alder for fish is a paleo tradition. Hickory and Mesquite for red meats if you like that smoke.

I use apple for ribs, chickens, shanks, roasts, spuds & corn. Everything. Nobody objects at all.
Even using apple sawdust in my Breville smoke gun.
 

Janne

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The Norse and other Germanic cultures believed that the Rowan tree possessed 'powers' .

The Ash was of course the Yggdrasill tree in the Norse belief.


Rowan berries make an awesome jelly to enjoy together with wild meats. Make it mixed with Apple and it is super with Roast Pork!
 
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Rarche2002

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Sorbus.
Rowan is my guess.

Wait until fall. Red berries in bunches? Then Rowan!

Hardwoods = have leaves.
Christmas tree = not hardwood. Softwood. No leaves, only needles.
Some grow plastic needles on metal wire branches, those are a new species.

Haha that made me proper laugh
Thanks all for the help I always enjoy forums where there is a plethora or knowledge like this and such a good community spirit.


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Rarche2002

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I’ve actually just got a little job getting rid of a bit of tree just wondering what this one was
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I know it’s probably going to be a hard one to identify as it’s been dead a while so no leaves in sight


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Robson Valley

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I'll say birch for the bark, cones and the leaves in particular.
Alder leaves are much more coarsely dentate. Alder bark lenticels are not as conspicuous as these.

You're right - alder is a very good smoke wood. Used here by First Nations for salmon.
Meat shop here in the village has used birch. I was disappointed. Too acidic.
 

Nice65

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Definitely Alder.

Just so you know, anything other than the conifers such as Pine, Larch, Cedar etc is known as a hardwood. It doesn’t just refer to Ash, Oak, Beech and others.
 

Nice65

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Are you sure? The leaves in the 2nd pic look like birch so I might change my mind to birch and agree with RV.

The leaves in the second pic are brambles. Though I’ll concede Birch is a possibility.

Check the colour of the wood a day after cutting. If it has a strong orange tinge, it’s Alder. If it’s still white, it’s Birch.
 
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Rarche2002

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It’s been dead a while I can take some pictures of surrounding trees maybe spot the one it care off


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